Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
Yep, I'm aware anyone can get BH/BF. My point was more that they are just fine in PVP minus the no self heal. You might not think they're as powerful as they should be, but that doesn't mean they're bad.

They're on par with SMN (IMO) and probably a bit better than BLM
How are they fine when they have to THROW THEMSELVES AT THE ENEMY to deal damage? All the other ranged jobs do it with safety and have off GCDs to actually burst (BLM being the exception of course). All the other ranged jobs also have pretty good sustained damage. When a BLM isn't using foul/flare they have Fire IV and Thunder. SMN has aetherflow abilities, dots, wyrmwave, and being able to move on the go. BRD has dots and mobility along with off GCD burst. MCH is the one I'm least familiar with so I can't comment on that.

May as well play a melee job.