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    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    it doesn't matter if it's Omega (savage) or Omega (Super Savage).. you are asking SE to prevent people from clearing hard content with better gears because SE allows them to.
    This is actually a misstatement because content like this doesn't normally exist (therefore I'm not asking for change, only anticipating based on past decisions). The closest would be PotD 101-200, which SE took very seriously in its gating. Are you angry that you can't do that content too? do you want that brought down to the difficulty of regular PotD just so you can experience it? or is a raid encounter that is likely just a remake of an old encounter (that you have already likely done) brought up to a harder difficulty so exclusively important for you to do that you would destroy any point of its existence in the first place?

    I will reiterate the devs sentiment. This is not V5.0, this is an encounter unrelated to Omega with no story implications, it could be Ozma (Savage) for all we know, where the only thing that has changed is the mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
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    you need to adjust your mentality and move on. pondering on pass glory is meaningless in MMORPG.
    And who exactly are you to dictate what's meaningful or meaningless in a MMO? maybe you and anyone like-minded need to adjust your mentality and understand the world does not revolves around you, this game caters to a wide audience and 99% is cater to 99% of the community having 1 piece of content you won't be able to clear because YOU don't want to put the same effort they did isn't going to make it or brake it to you, this is content aimed for those who wants the challenge if you don't like challenge then go do something else in the rest of the 99% the game has to offer, sorry you fail to understand how hollow it feels when you accomplish something only to have it be gifted the next few month, That's why I stopped doing relic in this game, what's the point of spending ours upon ours upon ours grinding this piece of pixel for it to later be able to achieve for half the effort I had to put to get it? to have it an extra year before anyone else? what does it matter now? for the shinnies? how many people cares or uses it after the expansion release? is meaning less and achieving it means nothing because I can just wait a couple of months and do it when it takes half a week and achieve the same....if the world worked like that any achievements means nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    you also need to learn that sometimes in life people get things easier than you.
    I don't know how old you are neither I care but boy/girl I hope get ready when reality hits you.
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    Last edited by MyaValentine; 07-25-2017 at 03:48 AM.

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    I probably won't participate in any content that can't be cleared using Duty Finder or Party Finder.

    I don't like the idea of needing a static and being forced to play according to a schedule.

    I do think it's good to have super hard content for those who want the challenge. Since it's mostly for bragging rights, they should just give exclusive glamours, mounts and titles, so players can leave their characters in Rhalgr's Reach to show off.

    Giving higher iLevel gear would be pointless, since it would just make the fights easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    you are not reading the OP right. no one cares if OP wants to go clear super savage or not. there are people that do savage after they become undersize-able. the OP is asking SE to prevent that from happening.

    the OP is the one sticking his nose into other people's business. heh
    no offense since I'm using my girlfriend account and I don't want to get her banned but YOU are the one reading this wrong, OP was and is not talking about savage WE ARE TALKING A BOUT SUPER SAVAGE which is a new content made for the hardcore raiders and what he's asking is for the fight to remain difficult as intended during the life span of the game so your achievements your accomplishment doesn't feel useless and people can just go with Ilvl 500 lvl 80 and 3 man a fight that was supposed to be epic and challenging. If you find this and issue then I'm sorry but you need to learn that sometimes in life you gotta work for something you wish for and even tho I'll probably never touch super savage I'm more than glad if this fight remains the way is supposed to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyaValentine View Post
    If you find this and issue then I'm sorry but you need to learn that sometimes in life you gotta work for something you wish for
    you also need to learn that sometimes in life people get things easier than you.
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    Inventory UI improvement
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    I did all the work to gt my relic weapons back when the cap was lvl 50. They are still sitting on a mule. So what if people can get them easily now? It in no way diminishes what I did. Nor does it bother me that people can easily do coil now. Again, so what? It in no way diminishes what I did when it was still hard to do. (I didn't get a chance to finish it back then because I got distracted by other shiny things).

    I am 100% against this elitist crap.
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    Player MyaValentine's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    I am 100% against this elitist crap.
    what you a most of this community fail to understand is that is not about YOU is not about THEM is about myself I could not care less if they get everything I got easier I couln't care less if do it easier why I do care is working hard on something then look back and realize if i waited a couple of month i could do what I did for half the effort I put in the first place. You don't care your effort meant nothing? I do, I did relic because this was the first mmo i played and I've never done a grind so intense in any other game, I dislike the looking back reflecting on the amount of time I had to put farming atmas only to see now I could achieve the same 3 times faster, I do value my time a little more and I do like a challenge you don't win a championship and the go back next year and win it easier because you are more experienced, to win again you have to put the same amount of effort to win it again, to lift 345+ PR on a deadlift you have to work hard and if you want to beat your PR you have to put the same amount of effort. this game is the only game were your efforts means nothing because it will become easier next month.

    that been said is only a fight having 1 fight in the game require effort is not that bad for yall to trough a tamtrun like if the sky is falling. Ultimately is up the devs so I'm done with this discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyaValentine View Post
    You don't care your effort meant nothing?
    The effort did mean something when the reward was relevant.

    Modern MMOs favor vertical progression, and that's just how it goes. If the achievement was worth it / meant something to you at the time, I really don't see what the issue is.

    Square Enix has already confirmed Super Savage, so it is coming. If you are among the first to beat it, that is awesome! If it takes you two years to beat it, that's fine too. None of our pixels are going to matter at some point. The most important thing is that we are having fun now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    I am 100% against this elitist crap.
    This statement does you a disservice, the thread has already devolved into but, if when you say elitist, we call the other side entitled, see how this works? I have simply asked for a mechanics request for a piece of content that I care about and would like to see have increased longevity and more meaning if I am going to be spending months trying to clear it. Calling that elitist does make you come across as entitled to the nerf, but also makes you ignorant of A) the purpose of the content, and B) the hard work that the people that clear it when it is "relevant" put in.

    This is not some elitist crusade to deny people content, it is a QoL request to improve the reward structure of the game. Whatever super savage is, it is a fight that already exists in the game in another form, people aren't losing anything by not being able to clear it, but if it is nerfed then those that want that kind of content do lose something.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 07-25-2017 at 06:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    This is not some elitist crusade to deny people content
    That is EXACTLY what this is. You don't want people to be able to get titles/mounts/minions that you have.
    My point is that there is absolutely no reason to do this other than to cater to a very small percentage of the population who don't want others to be able to get what they have. I'm sure a lot of people want these things too but simply don't have the time to spend doing raids or simply are unable to do them. In my case I don't much care about these things but I do enjoy messing with the fights. I have a lot of nerve damage in my arms so can't really do the super hard fights as my fingers don't always do as they're told. Why should I not be allowed to play in these dungeons or ever get the rewards? Would you rather they simply made all the content easy so everyone could clear it right off?
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