Novice Network is in dire need to change

[Annah]

While I understand some servers do not have this issue, there are quite a few that do.

The Novice Network has become an embarrassingly assorted example of pure abuse, putting down others and things that Mentors should not be saying to others. On rare occasions you will actually see Mentors actually helping others. But for the most part many good mentors have left the chat and now they are filled with some mentors who are not even in the same stratosphere of what a mentor should be.

On my server alone, two mentors were perma banned just this week for their actions.

This not only takes the name "mentor" and completely destroys any slight meaning it was supposed to be, but it's also an embarrassing chat room for new players.

It needs a SE official to monitor these chats. And that's pretty sad when a baby sitter is needed

[AlphaFox]

Been awhile since I was in the mentor in the chat but can't mentors kick or silence other mentors?

[Annah]

Been awhile since I was in the mentor in the chat but can't mentors kick or silence other mentors?

They can but then there is the kick chain. A mentor is removed, then one of his friends will defend his honor and then kick the kicker. Then another mentor will see that as inappropriate and kick that person. Then another person kick that person.

Happens all the time.

Although I dread Novice Chat as a mentor, I'm still in it because there are a LOT of new folks who really need help.

Sadly, the chat is being dominated by "mentors" who, the last thing they ever do in this chat, is to mentor.

Honestly, I think the whole chat should be scrapped and SE should be serious volunteers to head their own. When I was a GM for Everquest 2 we did this. Filled out a legit application if you're serious about it. You get your own passworded chat room where you can assist new players with the Company name next to your name.

This version has just become way too toxic

[Avatre]

They can but then there is the kick chain. A mentor is removed, then one of his friends will defend his honor and then kick the kicker. Then another mentor will see that as inappropriate and kick that person. Then another person kick that person.

I had someone ask me to join the NN, since I got Mentor before SB, in case they got kicked so I could kick the person who kicked them. I flat out refused to do that.

[Charlayy]

Mentors are worthless

[AlphaFox]

Mentors who are only in it for the rewards and recognition are worthless

Corrected that for ya.

[Atmora]

Corrected that for ya.

Not even, most mentors are terrible at this game and give terrible advice. They think since they have a lot of gameplay hours they know how the game works but in reality they're not actually informed on job viability, the details of optimization, how to handle more complex fight mechanics, simple positioning, or even how all the rolls synergize with each other. I literally had a mentor tell me monk was worthless and had no utility in SB because people told him monk was bad and people used to shit on its utility in HW, he never read the changes and put 2 and 2 together to figure out things had changed.

[TankHunter678]

It depends on the server, cause on Siren the NN is filled with more info mentoring and friendly chatting.

Given that you are on gilgamesh its probably a case of having a higher pop means having more mentors which leads to also getting more bad mentors who only did the work for the crown.

[Sylvina]

I'd rather run with a player who is terrible at the game and their class but is nice and respectful than run with a so called mentor who's actually just a jerk.

[Jybril]

The Novice Network was a cesspool back when I returned right before SB.
In Balmung anyways...
I seen people ask a lot of questions and it's overridden by Trump Covefefe Trap chatter.
Just felt like F2P tier type people acting insane. One reason why I left BDO. Can't take it.
It's sad because I know a lot of people are grown adults but acting like children when
newbies need help is disgusting. I'm not sure how it is now. Other Balmungians can chime in from here for me.