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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Someone suggested that Sacred Soil be removed from the Aetherflow ability usage and just be a oGCD, which I'd honestly would be fine with as the skill really is only used in Raids and freeing it up for more liberal use would grant SCH some extra tools to use for their everyday ordeals without hurting their ability to heal effectively since Aetherflow abilities are so important to their healing now.

    Selene needs a lot of help honestly. Increasing Fey Wind to 5% would be a good start but the real problem is Silent Dusk. It honestly needs to go in favor of ANYTHING else; Hell, a nice little burst heal with a moderate cooldown on it would at least make it mildly useful to have on occasion. I'm fine with the AoE purge on her since, while it does feel of limited use, there has been precedence for it's use in the past and I'd be shocked if SE didn't add at least 1 fight that could make it relevant again.

    Dissipation and Fey Union need to be sorted out because they're in direct conflict with one another. Dissipation needs to grant a free fairy summon on ending, improve Aetherflow heals as well as standard heals and Fey Union needs to just be able to build, even when no fairy is present.

    Honestly, the most confusing change to SCH as of SB was the increase in cost to Adlo and Succor; it literally makes no sense to me whatsoever to increase the cost of either of these abilities considering that AST shields are on par with them and are instant cast. Would a small potency buff to these skills be too much to ask for, considering their cost and that SCH really could use a tad bit more love in their healing toolkit that ISN'T tied down to Aetherflow stack usage as the pool of skills that require stacks is ever increasing and competing with one another. Either that or making Emergency Tactics reduce the cost by half.
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    NobleWinter's Avatar
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    Winter Gem
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    Scholar Lv 100
    The main problem with the AoE Purge from Selene is that other healers don't have a similar mechanic so making a fight where this is necessary leaves everyone playing WHM and AST with an insurmountable hurdle midfight. Luckily DPS can remove a few statuses now but I highly doubt that particular Fairy skill will ever have a shining moment to keep the skill ceiling from being too high for unprepared groups.
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    Baragara Nazzlohsyn
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    Aside from Silent Dusk, I think Selene is fine. Fey Caress is a free Esuna every 60s and a great "oh shit" button when multiple people get smacked with cleansable debuffs. Fey Wind doesn't need a buff as long as Silent Dusk gets a usable effect for end-game content.

    A simple change for Silent Dusk would be to keep the silence effect, but also add "Lowers target's magic damage dealt by 5%" for 10s. Eos has a 20% magic defense party buff every 120s, and now Selene has a 5% magic damage down debuff every 40s.
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    -Ability to spread Chain Strategem with Bane
    -Ability to spread Excogitation with Deployment Tactics.
    -Give us Virus back. If our Healing is weaker, allow us to reduce oncoming damage more.
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeliaAntiqua View Post
    Going back to Fey Union for a bit. My biggest complaint about this skill after the QoL changes is still the fact that it does not scale with any buffs and there a so many out there. Using Fey Union on a Warrior in Defiance who uses Conva and has a Mantra on him is just a waste. You could also just Embrace him for a similar result that does not limit the faeries actions and does not cost any gauge. There is still a lot of finetuning left before Fey Union is skill that I want to use frequently because right now I still cant be bothered with all the thinking required that goes into the usage of a skill that just heals a single target. Even other faerie skills like Whispering Dawn scale with buffs so there is no reason why Fey Union should not.
    I *THINK* fey union is buffed by fey illumination, did a little testing earlier with it and ticks seemed much higher if I popped illumination first.
    Although I was disappointed to find it was not buffed at all by rouse and I think it really should be.

    It's also nice you can turn it off freely to conserve fairy guage. but it sucks that if you die the fairy guage is completely reset. especially given the time it takes to build it back up...
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    Rhiki Sylva
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    I *THINK* fey union is buffed by fey illumination, did a little testing earlier with it and ticks seemed much higher if I popped illumination first.
    Although I was disappointed to find it was not buffed at all by rouse and I think it really should be.
    Could not confirm.
    Fey Union without Fey Illumination:


    Fey Union with Fey Illumination (applied before FU):
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    Dyne Hyden
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    Lamia
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    Gladiator Lv 8
    Just my thoughts after the raid this weekend.

    After doing V4 Savage now for a bit and still working out the fight in general I will say I have noticed the ScH issues a lot more now then I did.
    Example: My adlo is around 6k heal with a 6k shield. (Rounding all this) V4 Savage first phase. his auto attack is around 10 to 12k... so yeah.... pray for crit for auto attacks? but you are melding in det pretty much when you can now.... I am also using swift cast to heal up the white-hole spell and I can either pop second succor (due to how weak it is) or maybe idom (If I know I won't need one sooner than later). Depends on what part of the fight we are talking about, and you still have to prep for the next knock back with black holes. To sum up yes our heals do feel light... our shields just make me sick at this point. I have to admit our fairy does help, however, it is so little so late that I am having a hard time with it. Don't get me started on the level 70 skill either during this fight. I hope the devs are looking at this fight for what to do with the healing classes. Watch a ScH, if you can, do this fight that is not in full 340 gear and see what is going on. It is doable there is no doubt in my mind but seems way harder than it has ever been for a ScH to keep up with the other healers. Speaking about content such as this.
    I have been a scholar for a while now and this is the first time that our class actions bug me. A few don't work together really at all, the ones that make up our lore don't seem to do anything, and my fairy feels like she was beaten up. I kind of feel bad for putting her in this spot, she has to be sick or something. Slow heals, takes too long to respond to commands, she gets beat up all the time by AoE now and the level 70 skill is just.... blahh. My first "cure" spell is weak and has no extra buff or point to it other than the mana save (please Devs add a 15% chance to make next adlo a crit or something). Not that I really have an issue with mana in these fights only when the crap hits the fan. (My fault more than the class)
    I hope the devs are looking at these raid encounters and all the post that everyone is making. 4.05 was nice to a few parts, some parts I don't think they needed to change, but really guys/girls... My shield is about as good as the auto attack. The auto attack!
    Nym was beating by a dust bomb... Our shields couldn't keep the dirt out of the eyes of the army. It was sad. Never forget. LoL
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    Last edited by Justin_Uriel; 08-06-2017 at 02:12 PM.

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