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    Kanzaki Furia
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    Duty Roulette and AiN rewards

    Advanturer In Need reward
    looks like the Advanturer In Need" reward (cracked cluster) for Duty Roulette: Leveling is working better than I thought.

    6 mins as DPS quene time for DR: Leveling
    28 mins as DPS quene time for DR: Level 50/60
    17 mins as DPS quene time for DR: Trial
    30 mins as DPS quene time for DR: MSQ
    I did not list DR: Expert quene time as DPS because I will always quene tank/healer, but I can't do that for other roulette because I want to level DPS jobs as well.

    I think the reward, not necessary as cracked cluster, should be extended to other DR as well. What do you guys think?
    Cracked Cluster was a greater reward than I expected tbh.

    Daily DR EXP rewards
    I think they should adjust DR's daily exp reward so it is calculated based on your level as fixed % rather than how long you been in the dungeon.

    I entered a Castrum Abania that's been in progress for 59mins as a Healer and the PT were at the final boss... I ended up receiving 700k exp from the daily DR reward when it should have been 1.4m~1.8m if i did the whole dungeon. On the other hand... I received 900k from DR: Trial.

    I quene PT in progress as tank and healer because I know most tank/healer don't... the it sucks for the PT in progress.

    There's already an EXP lost for quening in progress duty.. it would be nice to get full EXP from the Daily DR reward. (Lv69 dungeon gives a total of around 2.1~2.4m EXP with 13% exp bonus from defeating enemies.)
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    The problem I guess comes from if they open it up to all roulettes, it's gonna bottom out the market for materia and make it so it isn't worth the reward anymore... does suck though. That being said, offering the reward to other roulettes would be good. Perhaps they could add like an achievement for doing say... 5'000 of each duty roulette as an adventurer in need. Perhaps something like "The Helping Hand"?

    As for joining in progress, I think it might be a good idea. Since the idea of it is to fill up duties in progress that have lost members, it should award EXTRA bonuses (that are available at all times), that you otherwise wouldn't get for joining from the beginning. Also, if you select in-progress, it should PRIORITISE DUTIES IN PROGRESS! Like, seriously, fairly recently I went to join an in-progress duty as tank that had lost a tank (queuing for that individual dungeon), had in-progress selected, it creates a new group for me, while that group still hasn't got a tank. Instead of focusing on the duty without a tank, it creates me a new instance.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    The problem I guess comes from if they open it up to all roulettes, it's gonna bottom out the market for materia and make it so it isn't worth the reward anymore...

    I went to join an in-progress duty as tank that had lost a tank (queuing for that individual dungeon).
    yea. that's why I was surprised they put cracked cluster as AiN reward in the first place. but the price seems to be going anywhere but down...

    that's weird... usually pt in progress gets priority unless there's a player that also quened for that specific dungeon as well and that player priority over the pt in progress... (i am guessing..)
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    When you neef to fill in a member from a duty in progress, it just adds them back into the line for the missing role.

    Checking that you are willing to join in-progress simply indicates you are happy to possibly lose a ton of EXP or enter a possibly bad situation for a faster daily reward.

    I don't think prioritizing the duties that are stuck would hurt anyone, but that's why it doesn't always stick players into them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    I don't think prioritizing the duties that are stuck would hurt anyone, but that's why it doesn't always stick players into them.
    I mean if there's no in-progress parties to fill that's one thing, but if you're searching for more members (they were), I queued as the role required for the duty required, with in-progress selected, and get a fresh group, that to me was an issue. To me the XP doesn't even really matter, I'm happy to just fill, but maybe there could be something awarded for repeatedly helping fill groups and allowing them to complete the duty, to help swing more people into it?
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    From what i noticed, the exp you get os percentage based, not only for your level but for your role. I noticed that when I was queuing for 50/60 i initially was gonna go healer, then i maybe thought tank, when i swapped I saw the exp drop. Then when I switched to a DPS it went higher than the initial healer one. If thats how SE is doing it than thay pretty smart. Since it shoukd allow jobs to even out when trying to level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    From what i noticed, the exp you get os percentage based, not only for your level but for your role. I noticed that when I was queuing for 50/60 i initially was gonna go healer, then i maybe thought tank, when i swapped I saw the exp drop. Then when I switched to a DPS it went higher than the initial healer one. If thats how SE is doing it than thay pretty smart. Since it shoukd allow jobs to even out when trying to level.
    it doesn't help that much when Leveling quene time is 4 mins for DPS

    but for 50/60 quene time is... 30m+

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    I think the one issue would be those who are looking to do the "in need" bonus for the cluster would then migrate to only the easy runs or those that contribute further such as Expert for the new tomes or just being quicker (Trials, Guildhest). However as for being added for Main Scenario I would agree with.
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    Yeah they should add a desirable reward to other DRs as well, just not the same reward
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