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    Player
    uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu's Avatar
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    Pa Lin'guine
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    Siren
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Umbeliel View Post
    game centered around group play
    Teaching what to do (i.e explaining mechanics) is quite different from telling them what they should be. "Play what you want"
    is the right thing to say because no one should be carbon copy of everyone else. What's the point of playing if someone else
    already plays it for you?

    Depending on what the group is. Group of friends would know the person asking and can provide specific answers.
    Group of strangers will never tell you to play this or that job/race unless they're jerks. Simple as that, applies same for mentors .

    Quote Originally Posted by Umbeliel View Post
    generate salt in the community
    I don't understand what you mean by this. They get bullied because some groups don't want particular jobs or race?
    I've never heard a raid static doing this, I've seen dps checks for screening process but not in my life imagine being racist like that.
    There's a fine line when it comes to describing the community. This is not it.
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    It depends on context. Usually, I'll respond by asking them what they prefer playing, style wise. If they say ranged, I'll recommend casters or Bard/MCH and go from there. When someone in brand new though, it's completely meaningless to talk about what jobs perform better or synergize. That level of depth only matters in endgame content, which they aren't going to be participating in for some time.
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    Famine Cruor
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Of course you should play what you want. It's absurd to make a forty dollar investment plus a monthly subscription without the intention of doing as you please. Of course life is easier if you play as a support class or the flavor of the month DPS. What of it? If you don't find those classes fun, don't play them. Remember fun? Isn't that point?
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    Jacob Nhisso
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    Midgardsormr
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    Paladin Lv 61
    No, youre useless if you cant play a class without being told what to play.
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    Cenerae Ten'aire
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Without the player having a good understanding of what they actually enjoy in a given class, it's kinda hard to make any sort of realistic suggestion for them.

    And ultimately, at the end of the day, they are going to wind up playing whatever they find fun. So encouraging newbies to try all the classes out a bit is hardly bad advice. It's not like they're going to hit 70 and be ready for endgame and *still* not have decided what they like.

    Well, they *could* but it's unlikely.
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    For someone who's new, it actually IS to their benefit to simply find the right fit for themselves. And when you consider that you can switch jobs freely so long as they're unlocked, then there's hardly any penalty or concerns that may stem from telling someone to play what they want. It's what isn't said in the moment that may perhaps still be conveyed: Play what you want til you find something you enjoy and can become good at.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I've never responded "Play what you want" without clarifying what that means:

    Play what you want, but what is it you like doing? Do you like helping people? Defending? Attacking? how do you like to do that? from afar? from close? do you enjoy being a badass or would you like to be a savior?

    When people ask "what should I play?" they need to clarify what they mean. That question in itself is very unhelpful to anyone trying to assist. Are you asking what roles we need filled? are you asking what's fun to do? are you asking what is the "optimal" class/race/job to play for a certain goal?
    (7)
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    It is NOT useless. Try all of the classes, and when you find the perfect one, keep playing it. Don't listen to jerks that think that the world revolves around them. They don't get to make any class choice but their own, and they need to deal with it.
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    Usalia Killia
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    Zodiark
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    Marauder Lv 30
    Well 2 much people cant understan that NOT all classes/jobs are as good.
    Like in 4.0 you need to move mich more one bosses so blm is bad for now.play as him in savage is just stupid. But people do it and some defend it by saying this play what you want bs.
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    Silent Bay
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    Ragnarok
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by usalia View Post
    Well 2 much people cant understan that NOT all classes/jobs are as good.
    Like in 4.0 you need to move mich more one bosses so blm is bad for now.play as him in savage is just stupid. But people do it and some defend it by saying this play what you want bs.
    I love people with that mentality.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh0m0pHBXSk ---> BLM 5000 DPS in OS3

    People needs to understand that all classes perform well. Some perform good even if played badly when compared to other classes played badly. Some outshine others if played at top tier when compared to other classes played at top tier. But these percentages, the bad and the top tier, are the smallest parts of the game's population. If you are dedicated, you can humiliate other DPS with any class, even with machinist (See Aiuri Ai on FFLogs who has better dps than most other classes). Please, everyone stop with that nonsense.
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