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    SCH's Emergency Tactics to guarantee Crit Heal

    Lot of complaints lately that the increased cost of Adloquim and the general AST's Noctural Sect shields are more MP efficient and stronger than the RNG nature of SCH's crit shields. I have an idea that could change SCH possibly for the better.

    Emergency Tactics honestly isn't that good. Even on a 20 second cooldown, it's still a slower, even more MP inefficient and potency inefficient Cure II.

    What if we change the ability of Emergency Tactics to guarantee the next galvanizing heal skill to critical? Unarguably, SCH's shields work best when they crit, doubling their heal amount as a shield. Why not change a skill that serves little purpose into one that plays into SCH's kit?

    If you must, you can lower it's cool down to like 30 or 40 seconds. I feel since this means more crit shields, you can justify the MP increase, and overall boosting SCH's reliability as a preemptive healer.
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    I think the post wanting to add 25-50% MP cost reduction is a better idea. Deployed Critlo on demand can be abused a bit hard.
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    Just something I think poster above me missed:
    OP only suggested this change to ET, not DT, so you would not have a deployed critlo on demand as DT would still have a long cooldown. You would just have a more effective single target shield every half a minute and be to deploy on the same cooldown as before...
    With that said though I also am more on board with the idea of ET having an added bonus of reducing MP cost for shield.
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    Seolla Viltara
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    I somewhat doubt they'll ever give us a guaranteed critical heal, because the synergy with other abilities is much too powerful. While it's fun to live the dream of Fey Illumination + Largesse + Dissipation -> critical Adloquium on a WAR with Defiance + Convalescence -> Deployment Tactics, just having that available is probably too much to allow an on-demand crit adlo.
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    A crit off ET is like a 40k cure, basically the equivalent of a 900 potency heal on a 20s timer (600+300)
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    I prefer the cost reduction idea over a guaranteed Crit Adlo.
    Crit Adlo -> Deployment every minute and a half is far too powerful, especially if we get the absolutely best case scenario of a MNK with Montra, Defiance WAR with Convalence, and all our own buffs up for a stupid powerful shield reaching into the 45k territory, which will only get better as gear cap rises. While this is the Holy Grail for SCH, it potentially trivializes content as you've now given everyone a shield that more than doubles everyone's current health, including some tanks, and that's just insanity.

    Even if we discount this scenario, we have to look at the investment on average for it. I'd have to use 1 Adlo for E-Tactics followed by a second Adlo for the crit benefit. That's 3600 MP alone just for 1 Crit Adlo, which is the best case scenario because 12 forbid I used E-Tactics on a 2.2k Succor instead of the 1.8k Adlo. Considering that I'm 317 on my SCH right now, I have 18k-19k MP without Piety mends, which means I'm giving up more than a 1/6 of my MP for this suggestion. That's a substantial bit of MP investment on a class who's current resource management is arguably the worst among all healers ATM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Just something I think poster above me missed:
    OP only suggested this change to ET, not DT, so you would not have a deployed critlo on demand as DT would still have a long cooldown. You would just have a more effective single target shield every half a minute and be to deploy on the same cooldown as before...
    With that said though I also am more on board with the idea of ET having an added bonus of reducing MP cost for shield.
    No, Im aware of its longer CD, but how hard would it be to line them up. I mean a 20s CD lining up with a 120s CD would be super easy. Tho thats assuming ET was changed to allow Adlo to give a shield if a crit guarantee was applied.
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    Oh okay, sorry! Misinterpreted your post then.
    You are right, though, they would be easy to line up and you would pretty much never have to deploy a non crit adlo, which would be going a bit overboard imo.

    ... an MP cost reduction though, would be hella nice without being anywhere near TOO good... not sure if I'm risking being shot down by players who defend that SCH MP management is fine, but I think that our shields do cost way too much for the mitigation they provide :/
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    So basically you want benediction on a 20-second cooldown. OK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    So basically you want benediction on a 20-second cooldown. OK.
    Closer to Essential Dignity with a cast time and large MP cost, actually.
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