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    Player
    Tiops's Avatar
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    Character
    Haze Pillow
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    Shiva
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Yes, a very important one: if you have more fun.

    Any person that block BLM/SMN/whatever from their team is ignorant. Every Job is viable. There's a guy streaming O4S at the moment, second part of the fight, playing as MCH.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    I only take BLM for fights where you can sit on your ass or dungeons for AoE. Otherwise you take RDM. SMN is garbage right now IMO. RDM brings too much to not be considered. Unfortunately because of this everyone and their brother is running one.
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    Schondetta's Avatar
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    Veno Sera
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    Ultros
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    play whatever class you enjoy. nothing else matters. If everyone played jobs only because they were the best the game would fail, not look like it does now, and you would never see a Dragoon. Also RDM is still a new class im sure the frequency will die down over time.

    There is also a lot of ex Summoners (myself included) hoping on the RDM train because SMN is a messy bag of trash this expansion . So were essentially down one caster class until SE gets on it

    Wish players would stop worrying about whats best and whats not. its not useful.
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    Player
    Powe's Avatar
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    Character
    Hades Pluto
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Schondetta View Post
    play whatever class you enjoy. nothing else matters. If everyone played jobs only because they were the best the game would fail, not look like it does now, and you would never see a Dragoon. Also RDM is still a new class im sure the frequency will die down over time.

    There is also a lot of ex Summoners (myself included) hoping on the RDM train because SMN is a messy bag of trash this expansion . So were essentially down one caster class until SE gets on it

    Wish players would stop worrying about whats best and whats not. its not useful.
    OMG yes, before Summoner actually felt good ,now its all clunky and I'm hate playing it. Even Bahamut doesn't feel right :/ SE shanked SMN and left it dying in the corner.
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    kyrios91's Avatar
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    Character
    Dux Dragunity
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Not even a BLM player but the Job designs in Stormblood are not balanced at all. You got these high skill ceiling Jobs that deals average DPS (DRG, BLM, SMN) with really punishing and tight mechanics / rotation while other Jobs are easy / can afford to mess up a bit / flexible rotations but still deal good DPS. It really contradicts their design philosophy and goal to "lessen the gap between casuals and expert players" because right now if you don't master the Job you're playing there's no way you can deal acceptable amount of DPS.
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    Thela's Avatar
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    Character
    Thela Ivora
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by kyrios91 View Post
    Not even a BLM player but the Job designs in Stormblood are not balanced at all. You got these high skill ceiling Jobs that deals average DPS (DRG, BLM, SMN) with really punishing and tight mechanics / rotation while other Jobs are easy / can afford to mess up a bit / flexible rotations but still deal good DPS. It really contradicts their design philosophy and goal to "lessen the gap between casuals and expert players" because right now if you don't master the Job you're playing there's no way you can deal acceptable amount of DPS.
    Average dps? BLM is doing 2nd highest dps in the game after 4.05 topped only by SAM.
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    Age_of_Oblivion's Avatar
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    Character
    Aetherius Lune
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Thela View Post
    Average dps? BLM is doing 2nd highest dps in the game after 4.05 topped only by SAM.
    Yeah, on dummies. Taking a BLM into a Savage raid crushes their effective dps because there is so much movement required. Maintaining enochian isn't even the problem, it's the sheer amount of time spent moving around. Triple/Swift cast alleviate it somewhat, but it's not enough to mitigate the dps loss from movment entirely. Add into that the complexity of the rotation compared to RDM's ease of use and utility, and it's just.... why bother?
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    VitalSuit's Avatar
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    Character
    Tarra Netsky
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Age_of_Oblivion View Post
    Yeah, on dummies. Taking a BLM into a Savage raid crushes their effective dps because there is so much movement required. Maintaining enochian isn't even the problem, it's the sheer amount of time spent moving around. Triple/Swift cast alleviate it somewhat, but it's not enough to mitigate the dps loss from movment entirely. Add into that the complexity of the rotation compared to RDM's ease of use and utility, and it's just.... why bother?
    Not really. If you know what you're doing you can pull 4k+ dps on O3S and O4S consistently for the entire fight.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh0m0pHBXSk

    Oh I should add that's not my video, it was posted on Reddit. If I had a static and time I would be attempting to bring my BLM to Savage.
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    Remedi's Avatar
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    Character
    Remedi Maxwell
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VitalSuit View Post
    Not really. If you know what you're doing you can pull 4k+ dps on O3S and O4S consistently for the entire fight.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh0m0pHBXSk

    Oh I should add that's not my video, it was posted on Reddit. If I had a static and time I would be attempting to bring my BLM to Savage.
    Ye ppl seems to forget that melee unfriendly mechanics exist too
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    Character
    Kronus Magnus
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Age_of_Oblivion View Post
    Yeah, on dummies. Taking a BLM into a Savage raid crushes their effective dps because there is so much movement required. Maintaining enochian isn't even the problem, it's the sheer amount of time spent moving around. Triple/Swift cast alleviate it somewhat, but it's not enough to mitigate the dps loss from movment entirely. Add into that the complexity of the rotation compared to RDM's ease of use and utility, and it's just.... why bother?
    I give you three new BLM traits.

    Aftermath:
    Grants an 8 second DoT tick following the cast of a damage spell.
    Cast fire, you get aftermath ember.
    Cast ice, you get aftermath frigid.

    This gives something to keep the dps up during heavy movement phases.

    Path Of The Elements:
    Anyone standing within a 5-10 yalm radius of BLM, gets a 10% crit rate and 5% critical damage bonus.

    This makes having a blm close by a boon, and someone you want to keep alive. It is an always on effect to boost party members, but they only get that standing close to you, with the punishment being they have to be in turret mode like BLM to get that damage boost.

    Wrath of The Sorceror:
    Anytime a party member dies, BLM spells cost 10% less & casting speed increased by 5% for 8 seconds.

    Giving BLM raise doesn't make sense.
    Edited in 3rd trait
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    Last edited by Sandpark; 07-31-2017 at 02:19 AM.

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