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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lelila38 View Post
    Foe Requiem gone, we don't have anything left that would buff magic dps.
    Foe requiem is still here althought it's nerfed, contagionon the other hand is the new foe requiem

    I would like for ppl to remember it, I know that ppl consider SMN trash but saying that there is no way to buff magical dmg is simply wrong
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    Rhia Nara
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Foe requiem is still here althought it's nerfed, contagionon the other hand is the new foe requiem

    I would like for ppl to remember it, I know that ppl consider SMN trash but saying that there is no way to buff magical dmg is simply wrong
    I never said Smn is trash. I simply don't play Smn, and since you rarely meet them these days I didn't know they had a skill like that. Forgive the misinformation on my part.
    Foe Requiem was redesigned and isn't a magical buff anymore. It increases all damage taken by 3%, before it used to reduce magical resistance by 10%.
    Raging Strike is now Brd exclusive, noone else can use it.
    Anyway, let me reword then: there's so many ways to buff physical dps, but as a magical dps I would also like to have more things that buff my dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelila38 View Post
    Anyway, let me reword then: there's so many ways to buff physical dps, but as a magical dps I would also like to have more things that buff my dps.
    Tbh the physical dmg buffs are 2 while the magical dmg one is only one, but it has a higher uptime then both of them, well you could count Devotion too (5% magical dmg increase) although it's clunky to use and ST only

    edit: BTW was not accusing you of saying that SMN are trash
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    Last edited by Remedi; 07-23-2017 at 08:27 AM.

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    Ohlala Chica
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    mnk (brotherhood), drg (dragon sight: olny on close members = only melee hence physical dps) & drg again (piercing debuff, which is for ranged / physical again), rdm (embolden), smn (ifrit), nin/sam/war slashing (physical)

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    smn (garuda) magical

    (devotion is not a magical buff, but a "general attack potency" buff henve both physical and magical)
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    Ohlala Chica
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    as much as I like the blm 4.05 "buff", it's still not enough, .. rdm still doing better or as good as blm (unless blm proc and mechanic lucky), while rdm brings utility..

    1) the Umbra ice hearts/B4 rota still needs to be fixed

    2) when casting F1 under astral ice, we should do into astral fire and NOT have the astral cancelled off completely (and lose enochian/ foul build up)

    3) Blm dps should be next to Sam, one of the highest with no utility

    4) Smn should have overall the same dps as rdm
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    Fester Blight
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    Rogue Lv 80
    There is also the fact many BLM running around right now are just RDM off-specs, so their gear is not optimized and BLM is probably the class with the best scalling in the game. As an example, on a dummy I deal around 10% more damage as BLM than as RDM, and that is with a 10 lower ilvl weapon and no spell speed materia, with full spell speed materias I could probably open a 20%+ gap.

    Which is kinda sad, BLM gear is crap for the other 2 casters and vice versa, and I really can not afford to keep 2 sets of gear with full materia.
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    Last edited by Nezia; 07-23-2017 at 07:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezia View Post
    BLM gear is crap for the other 2 casters and vice versa, and I really can not afford to keep 2 sets of gear with full materia.
    You can't even, I tried. Tomestone gear is unique, so you can only have one set at a time. Really stupid design, you're basically forced to share sets and have one job with melds that don't fit it. Making it really unfavourable (don't want to say unplayable) to have 2 jobs geared up equally at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelila38 View Post
    You can't even, I tried. Tomestone gear is unique, so you can only have one set at a time. Really stupid design, you're basically forced to share sets and have one job with melds that don't fit it. Making it really unfavourable (don't want to say unplayable) to have 2 jobs geared up equally at the same time.
    Oh wait... You can not? o.O

    I mean... I did not even try it, since I knew I could not afford it anyway, but this is just another factor that goes against BLM, spell speed is bad for RDM and SMN and you can not have 2 sets of gear with different melds even if you have the money to afford it, wtf were they thinking?
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nezia View Post
    Oh wait... You can not? o.O

    I mean... I did not even try it, since I knew I could not afford it anyway, but this is just another factor that goes against BLM, spell speed is bad for RDM and SMN and you can not have 2 sets of gear with different melds even if you have the money to afford it, wtf were they thinking?
    This has always been how it works. But assuming you do raiding, each slot has 2 items to choose from, upgraded creation gear and savage omega gear. So you can have one piece for BLM and one piece for RDM/SMN. But this isn't perfect since some pieces are best for all 3. If you have full 340 gear tho, your melds arent going to matter when it comes to clearing. Just meld for your preferred class, and youll still be fine for your off classes.
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    Waliel Hla
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I just wish RDM wasn't so boring to play - one day I'll get it past 67. Probably.

    Speaking of Foe, is SMN the only job with caster exclusive buff now? I believe in the day of caster comps being competitive, but I think we might actually get toggleable battle music before that.
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