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    Shiroe's Avatar
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    Ohlala Chica
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    Zodiark
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I've been in the MMO genre for about a decade now, and i've learned that it's much easier to just play what you like.
    yeah, but you wont get in half the parties or take double as long to find any.., depending on the class atm
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    Adaire Crimson
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    Coeurl
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    Summoner Lv 70
    RDM can raise better than actual healers can, and bring DPS utility as well. They also bring DPS that is decently close to a BLM played optimally, without the risk of a "bad" BLM. IF everyone in your raid are consistently top 10% or so of players...then sure go ahead and bring a BLM. Otherwise just pick RDM.
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dregenfox View Post
    RDM can raise better than actual healers can, and bring DPS utility as well. They also bring DPS that is decently close to a BLM played optimally, without the risk of a "bad" BLM. IF everyone in your raid are consistently top 10% or so of players...then sure go ahead and bring a BLM. Otherwise just pick RDM.
    Yep thats an iconic RDM dual casting raise in one round while white mages could only raisse one per round. But they could also raise 2 a person and return them with full health instead of weakness res. RDM could also cast 2 damage spells of 1st or 2nd level per round, while BLM could cast a 4th tier nuke.

    BLM never had any healing utility but their damage was much higher and in the end normally would drop RDM for the more powerful
    BLM/WHM

    if anything, they should boost BLM damage to be higher, and maybe think about giving healers a nicer type of res. I admit its really nifty to have a RDM around, but thats literally what a RDM is Its probably the best adaptation of an iconic job done in this game so far.
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    Last edited by ADVSS; 07-31-2017 at 03:14 AM.

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    Shiroe's Avatar
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    Ohlala Chica
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    like aftermath, would need to grant it only when casting fire 1&3/ blizz 1&3, .. but not f4/b4 (make it 9 sec for 3 ticks though), just as an overall slight dps increase and not movement dependent..

    as for party buffs, wouldn't mind a magic vun buff, helping a potential "3 caster meta" parallel to the physical/melee meta..
    (thunder 3 dots grant a slight magic vun on target)
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    L'cielle Lhas
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 80
    I'm on o3s right now and I play both rdm and blm and I gotta say I like blm way more. I feel like peopl saying that rdm is better because of mobility have pretty much never taken either of the classes to the raids yet. You can pretty turret for all of the fights so far. The problem with rdm is that maxing your dps means using cac and disengage when you can and a lot do time they will fuck you up so you have to hold them which fucks your dps.
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    Chocolate Dynamite
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    Lamia
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Actually, according to most logs I've seen, BLM's are significantly more dps than RDM's in Omega savage. RDM is a better bet if you don't know the fight, but if you have a grip on where you can plant for awhile, BLM creeps ahead.
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorbot View Post
    I'm on o3s right now and I play both rdm and blm and I gotta say I like blm way more. I feel like peopl saying that rdm is better because of mobility have pretty much never taken either of the classes to the raids yet. You can pretty turret for all of the fights so far. The problem with rdm is that maxing your dps means using cac and disengage when you can and a lot do time they will fuck you up so you have to hold them which fucks your dps.
    Idd, yet to try O3s but I have to say that neither prior bosses felt that crushing even on learning, I'll even say that while some ppl consider O1s the turret fight I honestly think O2s is the true turret fight of this tier
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    L'cielle Lhas
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Idd, yet to try O3s but I have to say that neither prior bosses felt that crushing even on learning, I'll even say that while some ppl consider O1s the turret fight I honestly think O2s is the true turret fight of this tier
    Yeah I agree with that. You can pretty much turret for the whole fight and on first probes you can just drop leylines in the middle and port back after dodging the aoe.
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    Ohlala Chica
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    Zodiark
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate_Rain View Post
    Actually, according to most logs I've seen, BLM's are significantly more dps than RDM's in Omega savage. RDM is a better bet if you don't know the fight, but if you have a grip on where you can plant for awhile, BLM creeps ahead.
    the majority of rdm can do better in any omega with ease (also when not focused), ... fewer blm get higher parse, with more effort or (proc) luck..

    + rdm can rez better than healers
    + rdm buffs raid dps with embolden (which is the final slap to the face of blm, since it only buffs physical dps and only the users magical dps..., dunno wtf Yoshi was thinking when he allowed that buff)

    as it stands now, blm (and smn), have harder times getting in pfs...

    some even preferred smn over blm, cause if ifrit (physical slight buff) and devotion..., besides the emergency rez (even if it doesn't quite compare to rdm's rez)
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    Will Cider
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 57
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    the majority of rdm can do better in any omega with ease (also when not focused), ... fewer blm get higher parse, with more effort or (proc) luck..

    + rdm can rez better than healers
    + rdm buffs raid dps with embolden (which is the final slap to the face of blm, since it only buffs physical dps and only the users magical dps..., dunno wtf Yoshi was thinking when he allowed that buff)

    as it stands now, blm (and smn), have harder times getting in pfs...

    some even preferred smn over blm, cause if ifrit (physical slight buff) and devotion..., besides the emergency rez (even if it doesn't quite compare to rdm's rez)
    Average BLM parses 200-300 dps higher than RDM on all fights so your comment makes no sense.
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