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    WAR Consolidated Feedback Thread

    Hey Guys, seeing as DRK's got a Feedback Thread, I figure putting all our thoughts for Warrior would be helpful! Honestly I feel like all three Tanks should have had these threads from the start and stickied but hey, thems the breaks.

    While waiting for Maintenance I figure putting my own thoughts down would help, anyways so onto my opinions.

    Upheaval is amazing, I love popping that off with Thrill! Fell Cleave could make do with some Potency Buffs, I feel seeing as we lack Utility, we should be doing a liiiiittle bit more damage? Kinda like the SAM of Tanks?
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    I wish Shake it Off and Inner Release actually did what it said on the Descriptions and removed/protected you from the debilitating Debuffs. Seeing our IR/Zerk Window heavily relies on us being able to stay in place and not be hindered by mechanics, it's clear Inner Release is meant to have us not have to worry about not finishing our combos, but that's the problem, It doesn't work, even if it says it should on the description.



    Also, how come IR and Unchained share a recast timer? I never understood that.

    Onslaught's fine, and now that we can swap practically freely again, I've been finding myself having more fun with Warrior now that I can setup a Hate Lead and then bring down bosses with Deliverance!

    Storm's Path buff was beautiful, fantastic, now it's the same as eye except now you dont lose any damage when youre trying to build your guage!

    Do you guys got anything else to add? Anyother Thoughts?
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    Dylan Wolfwoodicus
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    So, I think the biggest issue I have with WAR right now, is that it has 2 windows for burst DPS and you have to line them up every time. It's what made NIN unfun to me and pointlessly hard in 3.x, so I'm not sure why they made this choice in 4.x
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    Feral Shadow
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    The steel cyclone change to me is fantastic. Its like SE realized it must have sucked to take bloodbath from us and made an apology by it. Apology accepted. Made stance dancing cost free at our own discretion again, feelsgoodman. Inner release and unchained cost free? Beautiful. Onslaught...why does it still cost 20? And to hit as hard as an autoattack at that? Would love to see it as a more damaging ability that gives like 10 BG or something. Would give us that earned higher damage for no utility. Extend the cd if you need to but for now I dont really use it... Im all excited rubbing my hands together for whatever you change shake it off to its so terrible lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by FearShadow View Post
    The steel cyclone change to me is fantastic. Its like SE realized it must have sucked to take bloodbath from us and made an apology by it. Apology accepted. Made stance dancing cost free at our own discretion again, feelsgoodman. Inner release and unchained cost free? Beautiful. Onslaught...why does it still cost 20? And to hit as hard as an autoattack at that? Would love to see it as a more damaging ability that gives like 10 BG or something. Would give us that earned higher damage for no utility. Extend the cd if you need to but for now I dont really use it... Im all excited rubbing my hands together for whatever you change shake it off to its so terrible lol
    Onslaught is actually good to use on cooldown due to no opportunity loss...I do wish it didn't have a cost though, its not like our dps is goood enough that would tip us over either. Also be nice to charge things from out of combat =/
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmiley View Post
    Onslaught is actually good to use on cooldown due to no opportunity loss...I do wish it didn't have a cost though, its not like our dps is goood enough that would tip us over either. Also be nice to charge things from out of combat =/
    But then what would the point of Tomahawk be?
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    Viola Cruxis
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    Feedback threads are good, but the community reps actually told us to NOT use megathreads for feedback innit?

    Regardless, what's going on now is a good START- we still have pretty much no identity, no utility, and the damage difference is still too small to warrant bringing a Warrior over a Paladin. Maybe over a drk, but only because drks only have one useful skill and not because they're anywhere near as desireable as a Paladin lol

    The Steel Cyclone thing is half hearted. We would have gotten the same benefit out of just... you know, using bloodbath. 22.1% or whatever is too low. Way, way too low to even seriously consider it as a realistic replacement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbeliel View Post
    The Steel Cyclone thing is half hearted. We would have gotten the same benefit out of just... you know, using bloodbath. 22.1% or whatever is too low. Way, way too low to even seriously consider it as a realistic replacement.
    I think it was deliberate. I mean, SE constantly pushes us to tank in tanking stance. If you would get Bloodbath back (or anything similar to that), WARs would sit if DPS stance just as they did in 3.x.
    I am very happy what they did with Steel Cyclone, it was one of my wishes for a long time, but I agree that HP recovery is somehow lacking these few percent, just like in case Path and IB...
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    Adam Zoldyck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vejitta View Post
    I think it was deliberate. I mean, SE constantly pushes us to tank in tanking stance. If you would get Bloodbath back (or anything similar to that), WARs would sit if DPS stance just as they did in 3.x.
    I am very happy what they did with Steel Cyclone, it was one of my wishes for a long time, but I agree that HP recovery is somehow lacking these few percent, just like in case Path and IB...
    I never understand anyone who says "SE wants tanks in tanking stance". If this is at all true, then WAR design is the most messed up thing they have ever done. It has its abilities locked behind its stances, and has all its dps abilities locked to the dps stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamZ View Post
    I never understand anyone who says "SE wants tanks in tanking stance". If this is at all true, then WAR design is the most messed up thing they have ever done. It has its abilities locked behind its stances, and has all its dps abilities locked to the dps stance.
    That's exactly why WAR is in such a bad position now and why it was in such good position on 3.x.
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