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    I got a Mogblade tonight and this thing is really bad. The proc heals roughly 1/5 of your autoattack damage when it procs. There is no way this thing would ever, ever be worth equipping over a Winglet with hate materia while in a group.

    On the plus side it does look neat so it's probably best in slot for idling in town while trying to get materia melded onto an actual good sword.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    I got a Mogblade tonight and this thing is really bad. The proc heals roughly 1/5 of your autoattack damage when it procs. There is no way this thing would ever, ever be worth equipping over a Winglet with hate materia while in a group.

    On the plus side it does look neat so it's probably best in slot for idling in town while trying to get materia melded onto an actual good sword.
    If you're having hate problems I feel bad for you, son. I got 99 problems but hate ain't one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    If you're having hate problems I feel bad for you, son. I got 99 problems but hate ain't one.
    If your damage dealers aren't holding themselves back then I feel bad for you since you clearly are working with piss-poor damage dealers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    I got a Mogblade tonight and this thing is really bad. The proc heals roughly 1/5 of your autoattack damage when it procs. There is no way this thing would ever, ever be worth equipping over a Winglet with hate materia while in a group.

    On the plus side it does look neat so it's probably best in slot for idling in town while trying to get materia melded onto an actual good sword.
    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    If you're having hate problems I feel bad for you, son. I got 99 problems but hate ain't one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    If your damage dealers aren't holding themselves back then I feel bad for you since you clearly are working with piss-poor damage dealers.
    Uhm... lol. I'm not the one admitting to hate issues.

    I play with the best damage dealers. I am one of the best damage dealers, though admittedly not the best*. Both of our main tanks use the Mogblade. If the best comeback you can come up with is some wild, baseless assumption then wow lol. Also kind of sad that the reference went over your head. If it didn't, sad that you took it so seriously. Must have hit home. I'll say it again though;

    If you're having hate problems I feel bad for you, son. I got 99 problems but hate ain't one.

    EDIT: *Before you ask, I base this off of parses both on runs with my LS static and groups of other shells.
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    Last edited by NoctisUmbra; 01-08-2012 at 06:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    I got a Mogblade tonight and this thing is really bad. The proc heals roughly 1/5 of your autoattack damage when it procs. There is no way this thing would ever, ever be worth equipping over a Winglet with hate materia while in a group.

    On the plus side it does look neat so it's probably best in slot for idling in town while trying to get materia melded onto an actual good sword.
    Agree with that, Moogle weapons were really poorly itemized, Noctis can ignore it all he wants but these weapons are more like trophies than useful pieces of equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Agree with that, Moogle weapons were really poorly itemized, Noctis can ignore it all he wants but these weapons are more like trophies than useful pieces of equipment.
    A lot of them are, I don't deny that. With the way accuracy works right now in a party you barely miss anyway so they're useless for DDs. The blade is viable however, and some GLAs prefer using it. The mogstaff is also viable for THM as they favor m.acc so their spells don't get resisted.

    Furthermore, with the devs having said they're looking into having the additional effects on the weapons proc on attack spells as well, the mage weapons are looking even better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post

    Furthermore, with the devs having said they're looking into having the additional effects on the weapons proc on attack spells as well, the mage weapons are looking even better.
    You mean the THM weapon, CNJ doesn't require MP back on damage they need it on healing.

    My biggest problem with U/U at the moment is the lack of healing stats, I duno who comes up with this kind of itemization, a monkey perhaps ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    You mean the THM weapon, CNJ doesn't require MP back on damage they need it on healing.

    My biggest problem with U/U at the moment is the lack of healing stats, I duno who comes up with this kind of itemization, a monkey perhaps ?
    They're thematic - I'm sure you noticed. They don't get individual stats.
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    Athalia Hartfell
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    I'm hoping that sometime soon they will at least allow one and ONLY one materia to unique/untradeable items. Allowing more than that would be quite overpowering. As it stands currently a majority of this armor is town gear, or crap. If they allow players to meld at least one, then more players will flock to it, and get it. This still allows for those who have a lot of money, and have a lot of confidence to make better gear. However those of us who would rather do content can settle for a slightly lower end set of gear but ultimately still be quite good.

    I fear that the job armor, and all future untradeable/unique gear will be worthless. I don't want Dragoon armor to be town gear Yoshi-P ; ; It looks so good.

    Hopefully a Rep can get some feedback from Yoshi on whether or not we will ever be able to put at least 1 on them.
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    Last edited by Zezlar; 01-08-2012 at 12:15 AM.

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    Taru Panic
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    Brannigan's suggestion is the most logical, and is what should be done. All gear should be meldable. Crafted gear should be the worst, with green being better, and blue being best. Then logically, BLUE+M > GREEN+M > CRAFTED+M, maintaining the hierarchy. There is no reason why a crafted item with a single piece of materia on it should outclass all other U/U drops for that slot making what little content this game has irrelevant.
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