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    Dragoon4life's Avatar
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    Drako Redwyne
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    Adamantoise
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    Lancer Lv 70

    QoL Request - Undo sort

    I like my inventory organized but I can't tell ya how many times I've accidentally sorted while discarding. Can we pls have an undo option.
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    Morzy's Avatar
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    Morzone Vandalfo
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    Siren
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    At one point I just gave up manually sorting. <.< I advise you to, as well, for your sanity.
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    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
    Main job: SCH/MNK
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    PS5 based. PSN ID: natek_morzy

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    Airget Lamh
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    They will never do that, this has the chance of doubling the memory currently needed to keep an inventory in check since you are now asking for a save to snapshot the location of each inventory item on the last position of each item before sorting. And then what? What happens if you sort, get an item, and then undo sort? Would that be possible or would the undo just pretend the last item wasn't there?

    You might think it's easy, but it's far from it.
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    They will never do that, this has the chance of doubling the memory currently needed to keep an inventory in check since you are now asking for a save to snapshot the location of each inventory item on the last position of each item before sorting. And then what? What happens if you sort, get an item, and then undo sort? Would that be possible or would the undo just pretend the last item wasn't there?

    You might think it's easy, but it's far from it.
    I'm almost sure the position of the items in your inventory is client-sided, though.
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    Vahette Lauclaire
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    Lamia
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    I can't say I've had this problem in ffxiv, but I've done this to myself with my equipment box in monster hunter more times than I care to remember. I support this on that principle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Kaylee Frye
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    I just found it easier to go along with sort.
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    Areya Arvia
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    I'm almost sure the position of the items in your inventory is client-sided, though.
    The positions of items in your inventory (and your retainer's) is indeed stored locally. I have logged into my account on separate computers without changing any item positions and they appear in different positions on each computer. Thus, it would be quite viable, when the sort function is called, to locally save a snapshot of your current inventory positions, then have an undo function reset it to this snapshot (and perhaps have it disable the undo function until the sort function is used again).

    To be more technical, there is an ordering of your inventory on the server that is presumably only updated when an item stack is added to or removed from your inventory. Then there is a mapping between the server positions of your inventory and the positions of your inventory that you see. This mapping is stored locally, and it is this mapping that changes when you use the sort function.
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    Last edited by Myvar; 08-01-2017 at 06:58 AM.

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    Miuna Shiodome
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Auto-sort and move on with your life. You really don't need to manually sort everything. Set the option to make your bags one big grid as well if you haven't already.
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    I faintly recall there was a way to customize your right-click menus. Perhaps you can move the sort command elsewhere? I don't have access to the game now so I can't check.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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    Vash Warbreaker
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    I faintly recall there was a way to customize your right-click menus. Perhaps you can move the sort command elsewhere? I don't have access to the game now so I can't check.
    I have tried customizing the sub-command menu, and you can indeed move them around, and even to another sub-menu so it'd be hard to accidentally click. However, I agree with the others: use auto-sort and move on.
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