Would they add Blizzard to RDM Rotation?

[Genoreaper]

How about just pay attention to what spells you're using/have used? It's your job to keep your spell types in balance, we don't need special spells to act like a get out of jail free card just because you messed up a rotation.

This, the job is already competitive just by smacking your face down and rolling it against keyboard, it doesnt need more safety nets

[FaileExperiment]

I like it the way it is too, with one huge exception: VerHoly vs. VerFlare.

Other than whether black or while mana is low, there's no reason to chose one over the other, leading to them both feeling like the same spell.

[Vexander]

If they were to add Verblizzard and/or Verwater, I would want them as Utility spells rather than part of the damage rotation. Maybe make Verwater an MP Restoring ability on a long cool-down with minor returns. Something to weave in with long fights at, say, the end of a Verholy/Verflare. Verblizzard could be for a defensive cool-down or something. Maybe a, 'Enemy takes damage each time they hit the RDM.'

[Jybril]

We might get new Verelements at level 80/ next expac at least.
I don't want overly complications rotations. :/

[Vexander]

We might get new Verelements at level 80/ next expac at least.
I don't want overly complications rotations. :/

Agreed. What we have right now is perfect. I'd rather talents upgrading the spells to level II and not changing the potencies, mp cost, or cast times, but maybe adding buffs/debuffs or something. Maybe something like stacking debuffs that can cause additional damage when Verholy/Verflare are used.

[TankHunter678]

If they were to add Verblizzard and/or Verwater, I would want them as Utility spells rather than part of the damage rotation. Maybe make Verwater an MP Restoring ability on a long cool-down with minor returns. Something to weave in with long fights at, say, the end of a Verholy/Verflare. Verblizzard could be for a defensive cool-down or something. Maybe a, 'Enemy takes damage each time they hit the RDM.'

Make Verwater a MP restoring buff you can place on a party member other then self. Making it utility for helping others (like your healers, or other casters) but ultimately not something very useful to a RDM alone. Think of it as a caster version of Goad.

If you wanted to take inspiration from WoW, VerBlizzard could be a defensive cooldown like iceblock that grants you a good amount of damage resistance and inability to be affected by knockback/draw in effects while rendering you unable to perform actions.

[Vexander]

Make Verwater a MP restoring buff you can place on a party member other then self. Making it utility for helping others (like your healers, or other casters) but ultimately not something very useful to a RDM alone. Think of it as a caster version of Goad.

If you wanted to take inspiration from WoW, VerBlizzard could be a defensive cooldown like iceblock that grants you a good amount of damage resistance and inability to be affected by knockback/draw in effects while rendering you unable to perform actions.

I'd be worried about giving RDM anymore party/raid utility since people are screeching for nerfs due to Verraise, Vercure, and Embolden. Something mild and just for the RDM feels like it'd be better.

[TankHunter678]

I'd be worried about giving RDM anymore party/raid utility since people are screeching for nerfs due to Verraise, Vercure, and Embolden. Something mild and just for the RDM feels like it'd be better.

The only problem I see is that there is no real room for more damage output, leaving the only options defensive and utility based. Regardless of what you add people will screech about it.

And honestly it feels like people do not understand how bad it is for a RDM to need to verraise and vercure, cause if they are doing those then they are not doing any DPS, and if they need to do them for too long then they are at the mercy of lucid dreaming cooldown before they can be useful again in helping take the boss down. Unlike a BLM who only stops dealing high DPS to avoid AoEs, then zips right back to their circle and resumes doing their damage output. Ideally no one is dying and the healers are doing their job without need of healing help, this makes it so that vercure and verraise are not so much party/raid utility but emergency utility/a nod to how the class functions in past FF games.

This leaves the only real raid utility to be Embolden and role abilities. Embolden also only works in physical heavy lineups since only RDM gets the magic buff.

[magnanimousCynic]

I expected VerWater and VerBlizzard as RDM's AoE skills, but instead we got Scatter spam. :\

[TankHunter678]

I expected VerWater and VerBlizzard as RDM's AoE skills, but instead we got Scatter spam. :\

They probably should of been the aoe skills cast off scatter as the starter, but they did not have any good spots to put them in without causing RDM to get more skills then the rest of the classes.