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  1. #11
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    Ragology's Avatar
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    Brown Sugar
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    Adamantoise
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    Monk Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Eydis View Post
    Gave we give war a gauge with 1000 instead of 100
    can war have clemency and medica
    can war get regen
    can war get 100% counter rate
    can war have a shield
    can war cast fire 4
    can war get a boost on dmg

    /sarcasm
    For the most part, WAR players are asking for things they already had. That sort of request seems common among many jobs.
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  2. #12
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    Gunnar Berwerf
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    Siren
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    Warrior Lv 70
    That happens because you are not in the agro list of the mob, yes it is a bug and need fixing, but until they fix it, just open the fight with a tomahawk and you are fine.
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  3. #13
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    Tolby Seyfert
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    Cactuar
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    Blacksmith Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Eydis View Post
    Gave we give war a gauge with 1000 instead of 100
    can war have clemency and medica
    can war get regen
    can war get 100% counter rate
    can war have a shield
    can war cast fire 4
    can war get a boost on dmg

    /sarcasm

    feel like i see more "can war get/have" than anything else and war doesn't need anything
    the beast gauge penalty was there to help hold war in check on dmg, now you want to remove the infuriate in combat? Fixing the bug is one thing, but making a job overpowered in the process isn't a good idea
    WTF did I just read. Take this bullshit elsewhere. I would be fine with the bug fix but being out since release and still not fixed. I do alot of hunts on my war, so it has its affect on me. How would you like it if one of your major skills was buggy for no reason. For literally a whole expansion infuriate was never an issue but now that its been changed there's no going back because its an issue, ya okay.

    Quote Originally Posted by BluexBird View Post
    You are underestimating how serious and hardcore people are about being the #1 highest damage Warrior/raid party. Trust me on this - people will wait. At the very least, some Warriors will be asking for it.

    And if they ARE able to start off with a full beast gauge, it would be overpowered. Not completely broken the way some people might think, but it would definitely give Warriors an unfair advantage over the other tanks.

    The only way this change would be possible is if we made the beast gauge decay after a while. Maybe make it lose 50 points after 60 seconds? And I don't just mean out of combat, either.

    But this would mean each point of the beast gauge that you earn would have a lifespan of 60 seconds. Older points get spent first, so like if you used Infuriate, waited a little, used Upheaval, and then did a Storm's Path combo, you should have 60 left, and after some time you would only lose 30 because those other 30 came from the Storm's Path which is more recent.

    Or make the beast gauge fill up with a different type of rage, and make THAT expire after 60 seconds.

    But honestly I think this problem is just mildly annoying and not worth complaining about.
    Not worth complaining about... what?!

    Either revert or fix it already. Why is it not worth complaining about? A skill can't be used for a whole fight and its not worth complaining about? I love this, all the stuff people are complaining about on the forums and I complain about a buggy skill and this is the community response. I guess there's always that one person.

    Quote Originally Posted by GunnarBerwerf View Post
    That happens because you are not in the agro list of the mob, yes it is a bug and need fixing, but until they fix it, just open the fight with a tomahawk and you are fine.
    I'll try it, but I would think using any action on the mob would put you on the aggro list.
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    Last edited by Mycow8me; 07-21-2017 at 05:08 AM.

  4. #14
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    Blue Bird
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mycow8me View Post
    Not worth complaining about... what?!

    Either revert or fix it already. Why is it not worth complaining about? A skill can't be used for a whole fight and its not worth complaining about? I love this, all the stuff people are complaining about on the forums and I complain about a buggy skill and this is the community response. I guess there's always that one person.
    Yes, not worth complaining about. Remember last week when you weren't able to open up fights with Unchained because you needed 20 points on your beast gauge? Or when you lost half of your current beast gauge whenever you changed stances?

    Lemme ask you this - if you had to choose between fixing this glitch, or having the stance swap penalty back, which one would you pick?

    Yeah, ideally we should be able to have both of them, but we don't. The difference is that one of those affects the playstyle of Warriors in every single aspect. Yours is just at the start of SOME fights.

    And honestly? I actually don't even know where the hell you're coming from. Whenever I do hunts, my Infuriate is only down until I'm able to come up close and start hitting it. By the time I land Maim, it's definitely up. You're losing like 1-3 seconds. While doing hunts. Hunts.

    So yeah, not worth complaining about. Especially when we have a skill that LITERALLY does nothing 99% of the time (100% of the time in raids and boss fights).
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  5. #15
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    Eydis Ein
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mycow8me View Post
    WTF did I just read. Take this bullshit elsewhere. I would be fine with the bug fix but being out since release and still not fixed. I do alot of hunts on my war, so it has its affect on me. How would you like it if one of your major skills was buggy for no reason. For literally a whole expansion infuriate was never an issue but now that its been changed there's no going back because its an issue, ya okay.
    except you aren't asking for the bug to be fixed, you are crying and trying to get SE to make an OP job more OP

    and FYI, I am a war, look at my jobs. I have all 3 tanks leveled
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  6. #16
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    Atabey Guabancex
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Claiming wars are OP is either ignorance or trolling.
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  7. #17
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    Argyle Darkheart
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Lol @ WAR being OP.
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  8. #18
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    Kumori Kumo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    I mean, I guess on second thought it's not like... that important to me, it's just more of a "Yeah but why?" thing. The CD makes it too awkward to setup every single fight and if we're worried about what happens after a long pull, well... you can just immediately use it when you start the next fight. I dunno I guess I just don't see the purpose- I don't get the playstyle they're trying to nudge me toward with it.
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    Volta Fross
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 61
    It's pretty damn annoying honestly, but I guess I can see why they don't allow it.
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    Crysta Elizabeth
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Eydis View Post
    except you aren't asking for the bug to be fixed, you are crying and trying to get SE to make an OP job more OP

    and FYI, I am a war, look at my jobs. I have all 3 tanks leveled
    War isn't op now...not even close. If you have all 3 leveled, you should know that pld is leagues ahead of the the other two, still. I don't have drk yet, but I do have the other two up and it is certainly true.

    Back on topic, I feel the bigger issue is this causes us to be locked out of onslaught at weird times, a skill we feel like we should be able to use a little more freely.
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