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    Amenako's Avatar
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    Chihiro Itami
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 80

    SCH opinons on the change

    so what do you guys think about the changes to sch?
    im happy about indom and emergency tactics but excog not so much.
    i really wish they had touched physick or adlo.
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    Lillian Mandragora
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I am happy with everything except Excogition. Why cant it just be a frigging shield. In terms of communicated content where im in voice chat it's fine but in terms of randoms, they clemency or heal every time it doesn't go off. Even if it goes back down to 650 or even 600 potency.. I'd rather have the shield every time.

    That being said, I feel like these changes were not what SCH ultimately needed. Indom is nice, yay but I never felt wanting for more potency out of it. Emergency tactics is nice on a lower CD but our heals are still expensive as all kupo, which at the end of the day Succor is still a overpriced Medica/Helios and Adlo is...

    Im happy we got the changes we got, really... but it's really not anything I would have wanted short of Quickened AF being better and Emergency tactics CD reduction. Two things I didn't even contemplate wanting because I was fine with them already.

    EDIT: The more I think about it the more I realize im actually not happy with the changes outside of "oh.. ok, that's nice I guess." I just want my shield healer back and wouldn't even care if the heals were weaker.
    EDIT2: SCH is still solid in terms of playstyle, maybe im just a bit jaded and protective of the identity I was used to all throughout my playing of the game.
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    Last edited by Lildragora; 07-19-2017 at 01:01 PM. Reason: Additional details

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    Sir Rawrz
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    Well have to see what miasma ii is like, but overall, i feel like SB took SCH in a bad direction. These potency changes won't change anything. 500 potency indom is just overkill lol.

    Dissipation isn't addressed. I don't care if it reduces aetherflow cast time by 15 seconds for burning the stacks gained. You lose half your tool kit and are LOCKED out.

    Yeah. Still not interested in your scholar.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 07-18-2017 at 03:39 PM.

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    MagicalLoli's Avatar
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    Maygi Owo
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Indom buff is always nice, though especially with lower CD on ET it isn't that necessary. But, I'll take it.

    Excogition still feels mediocre to me - I feel it, as well as Sacred Soil, would be better off as long CD abilities that don't consume Aetherflow, because they are competing with too many other skills. Though, Aetherflow being at 45s CD now is really nice.

    Miasma II - here's hoping it's a bit more potent than the old one. But, still better than nothing.
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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    Scholar Lv 90
    These changes look quite nice. Didn't expect Indomability to get buffed but with how much new AoE the other healers got, it makes sense.
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Excog is a superior lustrate now, and it doesn't need to be a shield. At 800 potency it's not quite the strength of a critical lustrate, and with the more forgiving timer and cooldowns it's easier to use. It's true that it rewards thinking ahead and punishes reckless use, but that's not really any different from Deployment Tactics.

    The big things is the Aetherflow trait, which is honestly amazingly ideal. It effectively shortens your Aetherflow cooldown to 45 seconds if you use your stacks, which is fantastic.

    A stronger indom is cool. I wasn't aware there was anything deficient about indom but I will certainly celebrate it.

    One of Fey Union's stupidest issues was corrected in that it no longer consumes meter if the target moves out of range, which is frankly a better fix than the tether range (which is also good). Fairy placement planning is essential in the skill use, but that's as it should be.
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    Scorpius O-ra-e
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    Coeurl
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    I can only appreciate the changes that have been brought. It looks like SE has already decided their vision for scholar and these changes at least help flesh that out a bit. Excog seems like it's designed only for when you're anticipating high damage. The lack of shield is questionable but it's at least designed to allow more dps time. It's also been made to synergize well with Aetherflow which is a bonus I won't complain about tbh. The change to Emergency Tactics is a godsend, but I don't really know if I'll be putting any use into fey union especially seeing as how I prefer dissipation for it's boost to shield strength along with Fey Illumination and Largesse.
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    Xygoz Vekk
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    Honestly, Not to happy.
    Our shields are still crap, and our heals are still crap...
    yay 45sec recast on aetherflow...
    adlo mp cost still stupid high
    Succor mp cost still stupid high
    indo recast still 30 seconds, it was fine at 400 pot really
    and the list goes on lol
    /facedesk
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    Lillian Mandragora
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
    Excog is a superior lustrate now, and it doesn't need to be a shield. At 800 potency it's not quite the strength of a critical lustrate, and with the more forgiving timer and cooldowns it's easier to use. It's true that it rewards thinking ahead and punishes reckless use, but that's not really any different from Deployment Tactics.
    I agree with this, im just frustrated by all the randoms that go heal happy with it up, even when a macro message tells them its up. But thats more of a them problem and not the ability.
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    Isaac Direstone
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 70
    It looks like SE is trying to shift SCH to focus more on our AF methods of healing. We got buffs to both the AOE and single target healing choices with our AF. And the new Quickened Aetherflow means that it's a consistent 45sec CD instead of an inconsistent 30-60sec CD.

    I think this change will help quite a bit because our mana suffered a lot when we were expected to spam heal to keep the party up during a AOE healer check or when a mechanic was failed and the group takes unnecessary damage.

    The buffed Indomitability might make the difference and save us an expensive Succor cast.
    The increased range on the fairy tether (and removed disadvantage if the target leaves it) will allow us to use it more situations giving us the chance to use that mana on party healing instead of mt/ot healing as much.
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    Last edited by Aerowaffle; 07-18-2017 at 03:17 PM.

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