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    With new Savage raid how much will party composition matter?

    I'll stepping foot into savage in the next few days and wanted to know from those that have done savage omega how important party composition will be, primarily pertaining to which dd jobs are taken. With abilities and ground effects will it still best to take 2 ranged dd and 2 melee dd or is this no longer a factor anymore? Is a 4 melee dd comp feasible for casual play? Is a 4 ranged dd comp feasible for casual play? Basically what I'm trying to ask is will using non-meta setups like this severely hamper progression?
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    Well i will try this week also but i imagine bringing a Bard and Machinist would not be ideal. Even 2 Bards over say a Red Mage or blm may not work. This is just speculation
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    Ideal composition would need to include 1 blu mage, 1 geomancer, 1 swordmaster dual.sword and 1 dragoon for battle litany and eye of the dragon. Must need tanks are dual shielded legionair and berserkers and healers are time mage and ast for the balance, so unless u have this OP comp. Good luck in ever beats. Omega savage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Well i will try this week also but i imagine bringing a Bard and Machinist would not be ideal. Even 2 Bards over say a Red Mage or blm may not work. This is just speculation
    Bard is pulling higher numbers than Dragoon and Summoner. I don't understand why people keep bringing it up as weak when it does considerably high damage. Coupled with the support options available and it's fairly standard for groups at the moment. That all said, no one job is so bad it would be a complete hindrance to bring. Admittedly, Machinist, Summoner and Dragoon are noticeably inferior to their respective counterparts-- in that order-- but they all can handle Savage. A four team melee comp though would be awful since mechanics would force two of them to disengage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Bard is pulling higher numbers than Dragoon and Summoner. I don't understand why people keep bringing it up as weak when it does considerably high damage..
    For a large portion of the players playing bard, their numbers are abysmal, that's why. =_= People don't take me seriously when I say player skill is a thing or why it's incredibly hard to find actual job DPS numbers because of such skill variation in players (and epeening, etc.).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    For a large portion of the players playing bard, their numbers are abysmal, that's why. =_= People don't take me seriously when I say player skill is a thing or why it's incredibly hard to find actual job DPS numbers because of such skill variation in players (and epeening, etc.).
    Bard pulls in large numbers yes, but considerably so with a Dragoon. Most top parses you see for Bard are because of that. When you don't factor in piercing resistance, they're still below the other casters (maybe they edge out against summoner? I doubt it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Bard is pulling higher numbers than Dragoon and Summoner. I don't understand why people keep bringing it up as weak when it does considerably high damage. Coupled with the support options available and it's fairly standard for groups at the moment. That all said, no one job is so bad it would be a complete hindrance to bring. Admittedly, Machinist, Summoner and Dragoon are noticeably inferior to their respective counterparts-- in that order-- but they all can handle Savage. A four team melee comp though would be awful since mechanics would force two of them to disengage.
    Yes but having 2 Bards is never the best option, and let's face it the Bard community has averaged more bad players then good ones that know how to play the job.
    I used to main Bard so know it is very capable of damage
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    4 melees is not something you would ever want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    4 melees is not something you would ever want.
    Why's that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuma View Post
    Why's that?
    A fight where thwre will be aoe around melee 2 have to leave the boss, which is dps loss.
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