Regarding Dragoon difficulty

[CapricaLangley]

Sincerely, I don't understand your reactions. The fact that I didn't bring DRG up to 70 is directly tied with my current thoughts on the job. I play everyday with dragoons, and keep an eye on them. I read patch notes and watch theorycrafting/rotations videos to keep myself informed. I follow the raid scene to get to know their thoughts on classes. I know that on the internet when you say something true and inconvenient you get a lot of hate, but this is my opinion, as I stated in the opening post. I hear a lot of DRGs complaining about how the job is the most difficult and complicated in comparison to damage output, while IMHO is definitely not. Jonny pointed out that the job is punishing, and he has a point. But how simple is the rotation? That's the real problem of DRG. They can't buff it any further, because it's so simple to play it that every possible change would make it the deadliest job with the lowest effort

[Vincent_Mateus]

Anyone can go through the rotation, just like any of the other changes. I don't know how a Dark Knight of all things is complaining about the complexity of another job being too 'simple', but aligning cooldowns with outgoing raid utility while optimizing skill timing for maximum output is in fact difficult for some. The lack of reward for the class does make this an issue, as the payoff is Not comparable to that of the skill ceiling. Nobody cares about the skill floor of a class, because it's irellevent in proper class comparison.

[CapricaLangley]

Anyone can go through the rotation, just like any of the other changes. I don't know how a Dark Knight of all things is complaining about the complexity of another job being too 'simple', but aligning cooldowns with outgoing raid utility while optimizing skill timing for maximum output is in fact difficult for some. The lack of reward for the class does make this an issue, as the payoff is Not comparable to that of the skill ceiling. Nobody cares about the skill floor of a class, because it's irellevent in proper class comparison.

I'm not complaining about DRG, I'm complaining about Dragoons who complain
I'm not saying DRG is stupid simple, I'm saying it is "I put something on netflix while playing" simple

[BlackThought]

I'm not complaining about DRG, I'm complaining about Dragoons who complain
I'm not saying DRG is stupid simple, I'm saying it is "I put something on netflix while playing" simple

I think we've got to the bottom of this mystery.

[DJMau]

I think people are saying that you can do all the theory crafting in the universe, watch every video known to man and read every guide available but it means jack and squat unless you've played the job at it's max level and truly see how the skills are supposed to weave. If you haven't experienced it for yourself you really can't have much of a say can you?

[CapricaLangley]

I think people are saying that you can do all the theory crafting in the universe, watch every video known to man and read every guide available but it means jack and squat unless you've played the job at it's max level and truly see how the skills are supposed to weave. If you haven't experienced it for yourself you really can't have much of a say can you?

From a psychological point of view is interesting how some of you are more focused in trying to figure out what I can and can't say and who I am instead of giving your thoughts on the matter. Imagine if my public profile was a DRG 70. How would this topic be?

[BlackThought]

From a psychological point of view is interesting how some of you are more focused in trying to figure out what I can and can't say and who I am instead of giving your thoughts on the matter. Imagine if my public profile was a DRG 70. How would this topic be?

You're certainly welcome to share any and all terrible takes on here, but you didn't even have your facts right and now you're surprised people don;t think you have credibility.

[Ogulbuk]

From a psychological point of view is interesting how some of you are more focused in trying to figure out what I can and can't say and who I am instead of giving your thoughts on the matter. Imagine if my public profile was a DRG 70. How would this topic be?

You would know that DRG have 3 combos used for different situations, 4 positionals, and more than 3 buffs to pay attention to.

[Dualgunner]

I don't ever play Dragoon at 70, but when I play it at 57 it's "Netflix simple"

Any job is netflix simple if you're bad tbh

[Valenth]

From a psychological point of view is interesting how some of you are more focused in trying to figure out what I can and can't say and who I am instead of giving your thoughts on the matter. Imagine if my public profile was a DRG 70. How would this topic be?

Well, if you look at it like that, you kinda told people they shouldn't complain because DRG deserves to have low DPS with how braindead simple it is. You have to agree though that people have a valid point when they say you have no practical experience comparing the jobs. Think of it like this: if all the boxers in the world would be capable by just shadowboxing, building muscle and seeing their comrades fight, would that automatically make them a capable boxer? Would you know how it's like to experience that 0.1s of realisation you're getting hit with a counter in the face and how it may paralyze you if you'd never actually experienced it? Of course Dragoons aren't boxers, but I hope you get that there is the finer details of practical experience you're missing out on, the actual 'feel' of playing the class at lv 70 so to speak. People just don't like being told they do or don't deserve something from someone who hasn't actually experienced said thing.

I get where you're coming from though. I, who mained DRG entirely through HW, was also put off by the changes as I immediately saw the front burst we used to have would be gone and have leveled my other DPS instead (loving SAM and NIN atm), however, I wouldn't dare telling people they deserve their low dps because I haven't gotten DRG to 70 yet. It's on my to-do list though, after getting my lv 68 RDM to 70. Or maybe I'll lv PLD instead first, not sure yet.