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    RyuujinZERO's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    that would prob kill the server....as all players will have ever expending logs rather than logs that's limited to the max inventory spaces.
    Guild Wars 2, Wildstar, World of Warcraft and probably many more all employ a glamour log system without any problems. Not to mention FF14 has a log system for cataloging everything from fish to rocks per-player without breaking a sweat, so a system exists to piggy-back off.
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    Last edited by RyuujinZERO; 07-19-2017 at 11:54 PM.

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    Kanzaki Furia
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO View Post
    Guild Wars 2, Wildstar, World of Warcraft and probably many more all employ a glamour log system without any problems. Not to mention FF14 has a log system for cataloging everything from fish to rocks per-player without breaking a sweat, so a system exists to piggy-back off.
    it really depends on how the backbone data are structured and linked... if you worked with ERP or SQL or CR before.. you know it can be tricky sometimes... but I think the problem is what SE wants to accomplish and everything are tied to the follwing 3 principles....
    • spend time farming RNG (sub time = $$$)
    • spend gil re-buying (earning gil = sub time = $$$)
    • spend real money for extra retainers ($$$)

    Here's the location of gears from old/past/completed content I can think off and, imo, how easy/difficult to get.
    #Easily Re-aquired
    Calamity Salvager
    • Lv50 relic weapon
    • Lv50 AF gears (iLv50)
    • Lv70 Quest chest weapon
    • Lv70 Quest chest gear
    • Quest Reward items like Fortemps shield, Scion Adventurer's monocle, Kabuto #55
    • Achievement rewards

    Recompense Officer
    • All Seasonal/Special Event Gears. (i think some are missing...)

    Restoration Node
    • every stage of the relic you have acquired in the past.

    #Not hard to get/re-acquire
    Auriana Allagan Tomestone of Poetics
    • iLv 120 Ironworks equipment

    Hismena Allagan Tomestone of Poetics
    • iLv 230 Eikonic Gear
    • iLv 260 Shire Gear

    #acquired with Gil...
    Market Board Gil
    • Replica Coil gears
    • Replica Alexander gears ??? soon i hope...
    • EX trial weapons up to Thordan EX (except Shiva EX and Levi EX)

    #Not Ideal but still allows players certain freedom and convenience to acquires them
    Hunt Billmaster Allied Seal from Hunt
    • iLv 100 weathered Noct / Daystar / Evenstar gears
    i don't understand why they moved these gears to Billmaster

    Yolaine -- Centurio Seal from Hunt
    • iLv 170 Doman Gear
    • iLv 200 Artifact Gear
    again.. don't understand why they moved these gears to a hunt seal exchange vendor.

    #RNG involved... this is where things become annoying..
    this is what I don't like.
    Kaklan Antique Gears drops from dungeons
    • iLv 90 Vintage Equipment (AF2)

    Bertana -- Trial drops (I assume these will soon be on the Market board as crafted.)
    • Sephirot EX
    • Nidd EX
    • Sophic EX
    • Zurvanite EX


    #Not included anywhere with HEAVY RNG and pain in the butt to do are...
    1. 24-man Raid Gears- world of darkness, syrcus tower, void ark, weeping city, dun scaith etc
    2. 4-man Dungeon exclusive green gears... (while SOME equivalent shows up on market board later)
    3. Mog station purchases.
    4. Amazon purchase reward
    5. Fate drops

    solution besides glamour log that i would like to see.
    #Expend Armoire - what OP mentioned.
    • I think they should at least expand Armoire to be able to store all items that you can repurchase from:
      • Calamity Salvager
      • Recompense Officer
      • Restoration Node
      • Amazon purchase reward
      • Mog station

    #Tomestones or Market Board... No RNG for old content.
    1. old 4-man / 24-man dungeon gears should be all added to crafting receipts like coil gears.
    2. Put AF2 and other tomestone gears back on Poetic tomestone for exchange. (Oh wow... "Dark light" suddenly popped into my mind... too bad these gears are buried in dungeon... they should move it to poetic or put them on crafting receipt so people actually get to use them for glamour.)
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    Last edited by Furiea; 07-20-2017 at 02:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    that would prob kill the server....as all players will have ever expending logs rather than logs that's limited to the max inventory spaces.
    I think we can expect out of SE at least what a 13 year old MMO can do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Belisaire View Post
    Glamour log is 100% not a server issue. It is 100% they want people to keep paying for extra retainers issue.
    It's depressing and pathetic but likely true.
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    Last edited by Naunet; 07-20-2017 at 01:39 AM.

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    From the looks of things, none of the boxed job gear can be restored from anywhere, though I can't remember if I checked the antiquated gear sets. I went to the calamity salvager, Googled if any npcs resold it, RDM and SAM gear from the quests looks like it's gone forever if dropped
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    As I'm currently not online, I cannot confirm this myself, but aren't the i290 job quest gears re-obtainable from the Calamity Salvager?
    YES, you are correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sekkei View Post
    From the looks of things, none of the boxed job gear can be restored from anywhere, though I can't remember if I checked the antiquated gear sets. I went to the calamity salvager, Googled if any npcs resold it, RDM and SAM gear from the quests looks like it's gone forever if dropped
    the Lv50 gears when you first accepted the job... nope... can't find them anywhere..

    the Lv70 job Quest gears... Calamity Salvager > Purchase Job-specific Gear < Purchase Lv. 70 Arms / Purchase Lv. 70 Gear
    they are all there... 1000 gil each pieces.
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    Last edited by Furiea; 07-20-2017 at 02:52 AM.
    Inventory UI improvement
    Real "Repair All" function
    more Teleport favored destinations
    Mount Roulette Filter

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    Glamour log is 100% not a server issue. It is 100% they want people to keep paying for extra retainers issue.

    It's very easy, as people have mentioned, for this game to implement lots of systems that are like checking a box of 'have, don't have.' Minions, fish, hunting logs, sightseeing logs, mounts, CRAFTING COMPLETION LOGS (hundreds and hundreds of recipes per class).

    They don't do a glamour log because they actually don't want to do a glamour log. That's the only reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belisaire View Post
    Glamour log is 100% not a server issue. It is 100% they want people to keep paying for extra retainers issue.
    Only reply that matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belisaire View Post
    Glamour log is 100% not a server issue. It is 100% they want people to keep paying for extra retainers issue.

    It's very easy, as people have mentioned, for this game to implement lots of systems that are like checking a box of 'have, don't have.' Minions, fish, hunting logs, sightseeing logs, mounts, CRAFTING COMPLETION LOGS (hundreds and hundreds of recipes per class).

    They don't do a glamour log because they actually don't want to do a glamour log. That's the only reason.
    And that's the reason why I suspect that if they ever give in and implement a glamour log, it will be half-assed or greatly incoveniencing/hard to use so that people keep using retainers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    And that's the reason why I suspect that if they ever give in and implement a glamour log, it will be half-assed or greatly incoveniencing/hard to use so that people keep using retainers.
    Either that or an additional recurring fee just like the retainer(s). They basically sell additional armoury chest space in FFXI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    Either that or an additional recurring fee just like the retainer(s). They basically sell additional armoury chest space in FFXI.
    Ugh! God, don't give them ideas! Hahaha.
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