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    ArianeEwah's Avatar
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    This hasn't anything to do with Thrill of Battle!

    The last (3rd?) Charybdis is followed by an immediate auto attack, so hold your Holmgang/Hollowed Ground/Living Dead ready. Thrill of Battle INCREASES and heals you for 20% of your max HP, but DOES NOT decrease your current HP - if you are not at max HP - once it wears off.

    At least this was my raid group experience.
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    I haven't seen any auto-attacks from this boss at that point, because it IMMEDIATELY starts casting Roar or Twinbolt. I'd been holmganging them, till I was certain it couldn't use an auto-attack.

    I even saw the amount of damage I took from the attack: Much higher than my normal amount of health.

    And you only get five seconds. That's not a lot of time to mentally count out which # cast it is, and what measures I'll have to take. Clicking off a buff that won't be there most of the time isn't something that I'd think of.
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    On rare occassions bosses can get autos immediately after cast bars end, at least in my experience. Sometimes Sheltron would get proced by an auto before the actual cast bar hit and I was like ?????. I'm not even sure this is the real issue, but you could always look into the combat log.

    I'll believe your story tho, since you say the damage was abnormally high. I guess the only solution is to use Thrill in other points of that fight. Kinda bullshit that a defensive cooldown would kill you, lmao.

    However, if they didn't really fix this for Photon, they def won't fix it for Chabrydis.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    I havent't tried savage yet, but is Charybdis really doing 99% of your max HP as damage or just bring your HP to one ?
    i.e, if you're not full life, you'll die ?
    Would a mitigation CD reduce that damage ?
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    Done savage last night, this did not pose a problem for me though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faeon View Post
    Done savage last night, this did not pose a problem for me though.
    It's a very specific situation, though. I doubt a lot of people will run into it.

    I reckon a few tests are in order. At first I was a bit skeptical, since that would basically mean that if you're not at full HP and you hurt yourself by the time Charybdis finishes casting, you should technically also die. But... that's impossible since what's gonna hurt you if he's casting Charybdis?

    Thrill of Battle changing the maximum HP you have offers a unique scenario for this.

    Also, I believe the attack calculates the damage right when it finishes casting. Otherwise, people who aren't at full HP could just get healed during the cast and end up with more than 1 HP. So I don't think turning Thrill off at the start of the cast will be enough. It must be like a split-second window where the damage from Charybdis is hitting you at exactly the same time your Thrill wore off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluexBird View Post
    It's a very specific situation, though. I doubt a lot of people will run into it.

    I reckon a few tests are in order. At first I was a bit skeptical, since that would basically mean that if you're not at full HP and you hurt yourself by the time Charybdis finishes casting, you should technically also die. But... that's impossible since what's gonna hurt you if he's casting Charybdis?

    Thrill of Battle changing the maximum HP you have offers a unique scenario for this.

    Also, I believe the attack calculates the damage right when it finishes casting. Otherwise, people who aren't at full HP could just get healed during the cast and end up with more than 1 HP. So I don't think turning Thrill off at the start of the cast will be enough. It must be like a split-second window where the damage from Charybdis is hitting you at exactly the same time your Thrill wore off.
    Oh! Will check it out next week then, some testing.
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    It takes some spectacularly unfortunate timing for it to happen, but it can happen.

    As much as I'd love to rant about it until the devs change it so it's no longer a possibility, I feel like there's far greater things to worry about in the grand scheme of things.

    So, I'm just throwing it out there that Warriors should be REALLY careful about this, maybe even make Chardy the attack you save ToB for.
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    King Canadane
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    I've only ever used it after the attack. It's great as a heal. Never thought there'd be a reason to use it before.
    So as such, can't say I've had this issue lol
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    Yeah but I mean... Thrill of Battle is my last resort cooldown in that fight. Most of the time I don't even use it. Raw Intuition is AMAZING since after the fireball phase he just goes back to hitting you with tailwhips.

    I only ever use Thrill at the start of the fight to buff my Upheaval. After that it's just for emergencies, really. Like if I feel I might die from a Roar or Twinbolt.

    UPDATE: Just tried it out. Clicked off Thrill of Battle right before the cast finished, and it killed me. lol
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    Last edited by BluexBird; 07-20-2017 at 07:32 AM.

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