Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
I believe time limits "work" on balancing casual and hardcore play, but I do not prefer it. I would like to see future dungeons with no time limit and have a Normal mode and a Heroic mode. In normal mode, the difficulty is moderately challenging, while the heroic mode would be very hard and requires a very skilled and well geared party.

As for gear, you could make (for example) a Templar's Falchion drop in normal mode, and have Templar's Falchion+1 drop in Heroic mode, having better stats than the original one. Some may or may not like that, but I would find it fun personally.
I would like this, but for me i would like Normal Mode for 2-4 Members, and Hard Mode for 4-8 Members, and both with no time limit.



Quote Originally Posted by Razor View Post
I think time limits in dungeons should be more flexible and dynamic at the very least. How about just showing the time remaining until speed bonus is gone but can be extended and you can still complete the dungeon at your leisure.

Have a set timer start at 15~20m and count down to 0, by doing [Objective A] you add 10 minutes onto the timer. You get the first boss and kill him for an additional 15 minutes on the timer. [Side Objective A] would be out of your way and could make you miss the speedrun but grant you an additional 15m and an extra chest at the end.

Something like that would make the timers much more meaningful. It worked in Dyanmis (even though you still got booted out after X time, but that was so you couldn't just farm coins forever)
I really think the fact that there is a time limit would result in speed runs regardless of what it is. There would always be that GO GO GO, lets go, forget those, just run, do this, do that right quick, hurry,Skip That Cut Scene, if time limits exist. I like immersion, i want to feel like im in this dungeon and i dont have to rush, i can actually enjoy it, and explore every aspect of it.

I Dislike the idea of getting better loot just begause you cleared it quicker. When playing most games, wouldnt you get rewarded more for playing longer? for finding chests? figuring out secrets?. In these games the players who ran through it, didnt unlock everything, and didnt have the best weapons and gear because of it ala Final Fantasy Series.

I would prefer no loot bonuses, just Dungeons with Puzzles, traps, exploration, coffer keys, optional NM's, and structure with no time limit.

But if i had to choose a loot bonus, It would have to be something like Killing the optional NM grants a loot bonus, or opening all coffer chests, or even collecting specific items from mobs or something.



Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
Come back when you have a speedrun achievement for Batraal and tell me you didn't need a group that was above average.
The 15 minute run left little to no room for error.
Even the Ifrit speed run was even easier once everyone in the party had good sync.


And you don't even need to train all the mobs to beat it. You could go in, kill every essential mob in the Darkhold, and still have time to beat Batraal. This is easily 3-4 chests.

It's already easy enough to get a normal win. Why make it easier?

Which goes to my next point.
So its harder to ignore all content, and run through all the mobs?


Quote Originally Posted by Rau View Post
When you're at work, and your boss gives you a deadline, do you turn it in a day later saying "but I finished it so I shouldn't be reprimanded even though it was late." ?

If you really need all that time to go through it because of wiping/etc, I doubt you can kill the boss.
If you're going through for exp killing every mob, you can still make it to Batraal.

(Also, you shouldn't be going there for EXP. There are FAR more viable places to exp.)
LOL work is WORK, a game is something you go to , to unwind after work because its fun.

But to be fair ill use your analogy lol.

If i was at work and my boss told me to write up a paper and gave me a 5 day deadline, Why would i Rush through and hand in a 2 page paper in 1 day, when i can take my time, finding more imformation, to pefect it to hand in a 10 page paper for better results, and promotions?

Darkhold rush strategy = The Rushed 2 page paper lol.

Quote Originally Posted by Brainriot View Post
For a second there I thought "My Thoughts" was a new dungeon I've never heard of.
LMAO. MY THOUGHTS, the dungeon you play when you watch your character THINK! and you have to think better than someone else to clear it.

Quote Originally Posted by Allistar View Post
My thoughts...make the instanced dungeons just like dynamis...set time at start and opportunities to get extensions, and increase the size of the dungeons.
No Time Limits, time limits are so Dream Cast.