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  1. #1
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    Poisonous's Avatar
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    Leezil Paige
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 80

    The new Astrologian change is a huge mistake

    Arcana and Royal Road cards can now be discarded via an action.
    Please don't do this. The class doesn't need handholding. I main AST, I love the class and plan to raid with it. But. AST's buffing abilities are already more powerful than most players seem to realize, for one reason...

    Sleeve Draw lets you roll the dice for extra cards, ie more chances at the holy grail AoE Balance. Sleeve Draw can result in back-to-back AoEs. I've accidentally overwritten my own AoE Balance with...another AoE Balance!

    If you don't set up ahead of time you can end up with a bad RR. So RR again or deal with it. Sometimes I go for an extra buff, get bad cards, and everyone gets Spire in the stocking stuffers. That should be the price of Sleeve Draw.

    AST has the tools to overwrite bad RRs already. AST cards should require using a little foresight or quick thinking--this change would just make the class braindead, when it's already borderline OP.
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    Thea Sitori
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    I don't agree, we've always had the ability click-off cards because they were once status effects. Now we moved to this useless gauge.
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    We've always had the ability to click-off cards, but we've never had the ability to draw so many cards, either.
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    Tyla Esmeraude
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    Yeah I have no idea why they did that. It ruins the fun of having the RNG factor and having to decide on the go, working with what you get. I feel that now, all people will do is try to fish for Balance even harder for that perfect combo. What's the point of the other cards then if that's the case?

    Also I don't get the Gauge hate. For me it's very helpful to keep track of my cards in one single condensed area. I liked the implementation of the gauge. I may have not absolutely needed it before, but it makes my life easier now. So I welcome it.
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    Last edited by Tyla_Esmeraude; 07-16-2017 at 02:34 PM.

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    Big deal. Astro has the least oGCDs of the three healers, and the 2nd instant heal is a jackpot chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Big deal. Astro has the least oGCDs of the three healers, and the 2nd instant heal is a jackpot chance.
    Double the buff uptime isn't anything to sneeze at. The new Discard doesn't even affect the oGCD heal, since you can just use Lord instantly to discard it anyway. Not sure what you mean here.
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    Rin Tin
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    When in doubt, you can always make the right decision by buffing the AST.

    Sleeve Draw was a pretty big luck factor, but with this it will be so much more powerful than what it currently is.

    I admit it's rather funny how AST's complain about how they /used/ to be able to do it. It's not like any other class out there suffered that same exact fate.
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    Last edited by xNewbx; 07-16-2017 at 02:38 PM.

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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by xNewbx View Post
    When in doubt, you can always make the right decision by buffing the AST.
    [humor]
    I believe that appears to be the overriding theme since they released it and realized that they had goofed so badly. Though I wonder where the apology buffing is going to end, because if they keep at the rate there going, were going to see 8 x AST clearing everything on content. At least we will have a beautiful light show to watch on YouTube when they start doing that.
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    Nowaki Yoko
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    I honestly see no reason to complain, also no reason for that skill o.o
    I mean is not that RR lock us or anything (like having a bad Spread could), if you dont like your RR and you want a better one you can jsut overwrite the current o.o, so im sorry but i see no reason for this , unless im not getting something, that is completely pointless.
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    Hyomin Park
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    We had the option in the past to discard Royal Roads before. If I need and want a Ewer for myself, I'm not going to RR it to the entire party. Not only is it even less potent, but for most of the group, it's a useless card and a waste of an Expanded Royal Road. Even once you discarded it, RR still had a cooldown timer, and I'm sure that will be the case when they allow us to discard it again.

    Sometimes when you end up in a group and things suddenly go south (say hello to most Susano Ex PFs), you can't apply "forethought" to that situation. "I may need this Ewer to make up for raising all these DPS if/when they mess up levin markers." You can't really have that, and if you "plan ahead" by holding Ewers in your Spread, then you waste your Spread on more useful cards if the run doesn't go south. I find myself in Susano runs frequently having to toss out back-to-back Swiftcast Ascends and then Lightspeeding more Ascends. If I need a Ewer and get lucky enough to draw one--oh... well I've got an Expanded RR I can't get rid of....

    Sometimes there are instances where you need to outright discard a RR.
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