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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post
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    The first macro you posted in your second post doesn't match up with the first rotation you posted in your first post.
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    Last edited by Ferth; 07-21-2017 at 06:57 AM.

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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    The first macro you posted in your second post doesn't match up with the first rotation you posted in your first post.
    OH thanks I was tired and found an even better version of the rotation (500 more quality) I updated the macro to match the new rotation picture! I knew I forgot something while updating the post light night but I could not figure out what it was. The first picture is what I'm using almost entirely at this point. Its just to brainlessly HQ everything with a rotation that only requires NQ Tempura vender food and 2000 starting quality. Likewise the ToT ensures you'll never hit poor with Byregots!
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    Last edited by Katlyna; 07-21-2017 at 09:17 AM.
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  3. #23
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    Also, thanks for these, I've been using them all day.
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    I'm not keen on using buffs like Teas, so I made that one (No spec, No Tea) for submats. Tempura Platter HQ.

    Should work fine for everything, as long as you use one HQ submat.



    - Postponed the second CZ by one step to make innovation strike the Touches twice instead of once.
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    Last edited by cgbspender; 07-21-2017 at 03:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post
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    I've tested these macros and they work nicely, Katty.

    So basically, we can't reach 100% HQ using pure NQ mats while using all 100% secure steps. But we can gamble a bit with crafted mats. So we start off with pure NQ raw mats, use a little RNG to get slightly more power in the rotation. If it works, it works. If not, no big deal. We'll end up with the majority being HQ crafted mats and a small amt of NQ crafted mats. Then for the final product, we go for a slightly less powerful rotation (like the one cgbspender have up there too), but uses all 100% secure steps, utilizing our HQ crafted mats. Correct?
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    So basically, we can't reach 100% HQ using pure NQ mats while using all 100% secure steps. But we can gamble a bit with crafted mats. So we start off with pure NQ raw mats, use a little RNG to get slightly more power in the rotation. If it works, it works. If not, no big deal.
    Huggles Caimie. Your observation is pretty much accurate. Specialist can pull of 100% HQ, with all NQ and 100 secure steps with a beautiful macro, while non-specialist have to prep ALOT. Details for both situations are below:
    1) If you are a specialist there is enough extra CP to use Ingenuity II on Byregot's and 4 quality steps to blast up to 16000 control while still only using NQ Tempura.
    Tesla and Tayolor/Whale showed this in http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4317413
    Which is a really great macro with poor protection.
    2) If you use Max CP, HQ Tempura and Cunning Craftsman's Tea you can squeeze out enough quality to hit the 15000 requirement with all NQ materials.
    Ermad showed this in http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4314991
    Its a great macro as well, the downside is there is no poor protection on Byregot's, which means you either suffer a small amount of RNG (probably ~1 to 2% NQ rate) or you have to split it into four macros.
    So for specialist classes you are probably best off finishing your level 70 quest and using Tesla/Tayolor's macro. For non specialist classes its a wash. You can choose to spend some extra money and time on making HQ food and HQ tea's, and using a four part macro. Or you can use NQ Food and as you said Caimie just HQ a few things for a 100% synth. And that's exactly what I'm doing right now, just using the NQ food macro with ~2k starting quality. Its too cheep and easy for me to bother with much else.
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    Last edited by Katlyna; 07-22-2017 at 12:53 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post
    Huggles Caimie. Your observation is pretty much accurate. Specialist can pull of 100% HQ, with all NQ and 100 secure steps with a beautiful macro, while non-specialist have to prep ALOT. Details for both situations are below:



    So for specialist classes you are probably best off finishing your level 70 quest and using Tesla/Tayolor's macro. For non specialist classes its a wash. You can choose to spend some extra money and time on making HQ food and HQ tea's, and using a four part macro. Or you can use NQ Food and as you said Caimie just HQ a few things for a 100% synth. And that's exactly what I'm doing right now, just using the NQ food macro with ~2k starting quality. Its too cheep and easy for me to bother with much else.
    Or you can spend a bit more Gil in mrlding and use control food (seafood hq) like i do.

    Anyway. ..great macro
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    I can't edit.
    Im using your macro with this meld http://ffxiv.ariyala.com + seafood HQ and it more easy to net HQ with NQ mats
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    I think the CP requirement on the 1st macro on 2nd post is wrong? I tested it out and it costed minimum 510 CP (without the ToT proc), unless I did something wrong and haven't realized

    https://puu.sh/wPrJE/2380d052fd.png
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  10. #30
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    Euphoria Winter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lialiin View Post
    I can't edit.
    Im using your macro with this meld http://ffxiv.ariyala.com + seafood HQ and it more easy to net HQ with NQ mats
    I can't see your melds just the main page
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