[Stormblood] [Dragoon Rotation] COME ON AND SLAM

[Aletin]

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The first one is still going to be stronger, the problem in the second is youre missing the Chaos Thrust being buffed by Dragon Sight which is losing you 62 potency versus the 39 you gain by allowing it to hit the second Wheeling Thrust (overall a 23 potency loss).

If I had to suggest anything, either fit the pot in right before your Heavy Thrust and pull the rest of the buffs back 1 GCD or move Litany to before Heavy Thrust and put Dragon Sight in where it was.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Hey fellow Dragoons,

After reading this thread since SB, I've decided to make a post to see if I can find some opinions. I live far away from the datacenter and have a high latency (~250ms). Double weave is impossible without clipping GCD so I'm working on an opener with a minimum of double weave.

I came with this first : http://ffxivrotations.com/13h0
Not that bad but the 2nd 5th combo is not buffed by DS (buff falling off). No potion cause finding a slot for it will force double weave.

You can lower your Skill Speed to better accommodate double weaving. Dragoon can work with 512 Skill Speed, which may work better for you.

That aside, I would actually delay Diversion in your rotation. I know it sounds odd, but you have ample opportunity to exploit Elusive Jump through each fight. In V1S, you can position yourself on the opposite side of your assigned clock position and once the field turns to ice purposely press back to trigger the slide, then Elusive to your actual clock position. V2S you can Elusive whenever you need to stack near the walls and V3S when Briers happens. By doing this you can shift all your buffs one GCD back and fit a pot in just before Chaos Thrust. Personally, I would experiment with the low Skill Speed build before anything else.

[AgitoKaguya]

The first one is still going to be stronger, the problem in the second is youre missing the Chaos Thrust being buffed

Thanks for the maths. Totally forgot that CT with the dot do more damage than a 5th combo...

You can lower your Skill Speed to better accommodate double weaving

This is what I'm aiming for (the TurtleGoon Build !) cause Sks is totally useless with my ping (9 GCD under B4B ? What is that ?). I tried it one month ago when I still had the Susanoo spear and even if it feels slow, I have a lot of room to work with and skills with short animation lock can be double weave without too much trouble. Sadly atm I just have what I could put my hands on. Can't be choosy with progress gear (looking at you 340 spear )

In the end I will just stick with this cause it's the one I'm the most used to and had the most success with. I will try to use a potion just before HT to see how it goes.

Thanks for all the tips and advice !

[AstralThundr]

Here is what I have been using, I'm pretty sure its sub-optimal but it feels familiar to the old 3.x rotation. Could use some help.
http://ffxivrotations.com/13h0

[LiquidSwordz]

Here is what I have been using, I'm pretty sure its sub-optimal but it feels familiar to the old 3.x rotation. Could use some help.
http://ffxivrotations.com/13h0

Check out the one I posted a few comments up. I prefer it over any other one I've tested

[AstralThundr]

Check out the one I posted a few comments up. I prefer it over any other one I've tested

where would you fit a potion in if you used one??

[LiquidSwordz]

I pop it after impulse drive. Doing this means you have to double weave second mirage dive and life surge

[AstralThundr]

I pop it after impulse drive. Doing this means you have to double weave second mirage dive and life surge

so you are saying something like this?
http://ffxivrotations.com/14n6

[LiquidSwordz]

Yes exactly

[LiquidSwordz]

FYI, now that in 4.1 it will take 3 stacks instead of 4 for LotD, those putting spineshatter before jump in your rotation may wanna switch it the other way around.