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    The heavy trust flanking and fang and claw flanking, are they a must??? and what difference is it (%) or dps wise?? advanced combat tracker doesnt work for me anymore dunno why.
    Because i find it a really pain doing that AND avoiding crap from the bosses, is it really a must? i know that it if you look at base dmg of the skills when flanking its about 40% more. Just trying to know if its worth the hassle for doing it.
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    Atabey Guabancex
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    Quote Originally Posted by J1992 View Post
    The heavy trust flanking and fang and claw flanking, are they a must??? and what difference is it (%) or dps wise?? advanced combat tracker doesnt work for me anymore dunno why.
    Because i find it a really pain doing that AND avoiding crap from the bosses, is it really a must? i know that it if you look at base dmg of the skills when flanking its about 40% more. Just trying to know if its worth the hassle for doing it.
    OK, ignoring off gcds, you are inflicting about 305.4545 potency per gcd if you use the positionals

    If you ignore positionals and always attack from the rear: 281.18 potency per GCD
    If you ignore positionals and always attack from flank: 289.09 potency per GCD.

    So you are losing between 5.4% to 7.9% less potency per GDC damage.

    *for simplicity, assuming the Full Thrust buff and Disembowel Debuff are maintained throughout a long boss fight.

    If you are having issues maneuvering for any personal reason, then I'd try your best to at least always attack from flank. It is well worth to put the effort to seek the right position, though. No one ever gets it always perfect, some enemies just randomly turn, sometimes the tanks are hysterical on their feet and turn the boss. If you can avoid AoE patches regularly, with practice, you can get the hang out of the positional. As everything: practice makes perfect.
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    thanks for the reply, just found today out that flanking was also a thing thats why the question. even without the flanking i did get 2900 dps at the snake boss. Just tried flanking with susano extreme, i think i need to get familier with it, first pull was disaster but steadily i avoided everything and did the right things. No ACT atm, it doesnt work dunno why. but i did see the difference, when i flanked i saw crits of 11k orso with fang and claw, and heavy trust was also quite high. Just need to figure out what my dps is, damn meter doesnt work.
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    Dux Dragunity
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by J1992 View Post
    The heavy trust flanking and fang and claw flanking, are they a must??? and what difference is it (%) or dps wise?? advanced combat tracker doesnt work for me anymore dunno why.
    Because i find it a really pain doing that AND avoiding crap from the bosses, is it really a must? i know that it if you look at base dmg of the skills when flanking its about 40% more. Just trying to know if its worth the hassle for doing it.
    It's a must. It's not even a min-maxing matter anymore, esp. a 5th combo FnC and WT since it's a +90 potency difference so you wouldn't want to miss it.
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