ELI5 What is wrong with SMN?

[AsbelLahnt]

pff, do you really think taking a smn is preventing to do savage content ? Or any ex ?

This is so stupid to think like that, if you can master your job, whatever the content it'll be fine.

It's specifically people with this type of chip on their shoulder that hurts classes way more than SE does. If they believe that a class is lowest on the damage ring, they won't even give them a time of day.

I see the later comment saying that they couldn't beat O1S with a summoner in their group. My thoughts are, maybe you couldn't beat them with *that* summoner. I just cannot believe that it is impossible for a group to beat every dungeon/trial/raid in this game while playing their preferred classes...and doing well with them, even if that class happens to be a SMN.

[Neela]

Well i beat O1s with my group too and i went there as smn, we were far from the enrage.

Me as well... than its maybe peoples skill-level which is bad not the cls itself.
700 dps difference to ALL others is to much to just point on the cls design as reason.

[Ariomi]

It's specifically people with this type of chip on their shoulder that hurts classes way more than SE does. If they believe that a class is lowest on the damage ring, they won't even give them a time of day.

I see the later comment saying that they couldn't beat O1S with a summoner in their group. My thoughts are, maybe you couldn't beat them with *that* summoner. I just cannot believe that it is impossible for a group to beat every dungeon/trial/raid in this game while playing their preferred classes...and doing well with them, even if that class happens to be a SMN.

Proven fact summoner is the lowest dps -tied with Machinist.

https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/15...036&dataset=60

SE hurts Summoner more then anything else. You think if Summoner was near red mage people would complain?

I was a summoner when I cleared a12 savage. Trust me, I want summoner to be good more then anyone else. And it's not.

[PriyaJugulataris]

https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/15...gregate=amount

To account for patch 4.05, limit it to a week and you have SMN hovering around bottom 4 regardless of endgame encounter above the 50th percentile