How will NIN nerfs affect them?

[Esoterikk]

*Ninja "Potency for Gust Slash will be reduced. The reason for this is because the players found a stronger skill rotation than those the dev. team was using while making adjustments."


Im a bit confused by this since I expected TA would be the target for nerfs, how will this affect them and why do you think this is the choice for nerf?

[Adelaide3]

Dps numbers might be lower but good Ninja players will make up for the slight potency loss with raid fight optimization alongside proper stat builds once more gear options are available.

[Shamox]

"Stronger skill rotation"

How?
This is a 2nd combo...
This is either a Typo or a mistranslation.

Anyway, if you check some FFlogs you'll notice that gut slash is the ability that provides the more dps over a fight, right behind your auto attacks.
In fact it's something around 16% of NIN's DPS the loss is gonne be like 1.5/7% of the overall DPS.

[OcieKo]

*Ninja "Potency for Gust Slash will be reduced. The reason for this is because the players found a stronger skill rotation than those the dev. team was using while making adjustments."


Im a bit confused by this since I expected TA would be the target for nerfs, how will this affect them and why do you think this is the choice for nerf?

Ninjas pretty much branch everything off from here. I think ninjas are the only melee DPS with only 1 combo starter. SAM has 2, DRG has 3, MNK has 3. And also its the only one with a single 2nd step combo that progresses the chain, even if you include tanks. Realistically NIN uses more Gust Slash relative to any other combo based job around.

[Zojha]

"Stronger skill rotation"

How?

Truth be told, I have no idea what they mean with that. The rotation nowadays is very rigid and doesn't allow for a tremendous amount of overall alternation. My guess is that they alternated between Shadow Fang, Aeolian Edge and Armor Crush when testing, whereas players used Aeolian Edge twice whenever the Huton timer was higher than 40.

But then why nerf Gust Slash...? Ah, to heck if I understand this dev team >_>

[Esoterikk]

Ninjas pretty much branch everything off from here. I think ninjas are the only melee DPS with only 1 combo starter. SAM has 2, DRG has 3, MNK has 3. And also its the only one with a single 2nd step combo that progresses the chain, even if you include tanks. Realistically NIN uses more Gust Slash relative to any other combo based job around.

Yes but Gust Slash is the only way to unlock the combo, there's not much choice in it at all? I'm confused at what you are getting to. I'm also confused what rotation the devs intended.

[OcieKo]

Correct, in which case its an easy point to curb overall DPS without hitting any given ability to hard. Say it was the 2X AE example Zojha gave, they could hit AE kindof hard, or hit GS a little bit for the same effect. Also down the line if increased skill speed allows more change to your rotation hitting something consistent now would keep it level longer.

On the other hand, it could including acknowledging the players rotation being better and opting to bring it down in a way that doesn't change it.

[Stomoman]

As long as Trick Attack remains untouched, it's still in inasta-pick for every raid team.

[Adelaide3]

I think it's time to just start giving us Ninjas Arrow buff alongside Fey Wind. Or just one of those buffs if both healer jobs aren't present.

Balance might be a better buff for other classes but our resource is completely reliant on auto attack speed and both of those buffs do just that. The global cooldown reduction is icing on the cake and you'll basically have something that feels like a 1s gcd.

[rxnin]

UTTERLY DEPRESSED NINJA GOT A NERF. First, Bhavacakra and now Gust Slash. Next it'll be Trick Attack on a 120 sec CD. Stop this SE! Focus on healers and tanks, they need changes not Ninjas.