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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    I'm an indie dev with a steamworks account, and I can atest that the developer is free to set regional prices as he/she sees fit for each region independently. There is no limitation in that regard.
    But if you need to change it, would you warn it before doing so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montt View Post
    But if you need to change it, would you warn it before doing so?
    Ah yeah, OF COURSE, I was only relating that any excuses as to "SE doesn't control regional prices" is bullshit =P
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    Last edited by AlexionSkylark; 07-25-2017 at 05:26 AM.

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    Rofel Dokfel
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    If you want to argue against how bad this is, you can try and convince SE that this is an overall net loss for them, even if just because of bad PR.
    But... that's exactly what the majority of people are doing. The emotional post of one dude is a drop in the ocean and its not what the majority is using as argument.

    But here's some food for thought: now that this has come to to the spotlight, if they reverted the price changes, how would they then justify the rest of the world paying more than the affected people?
    For starters, the UK players are paying less than us now so its still not the same for everybody. And it shouldnt be.

    Second, if they did, that means they are embracing the practice, wich is expected from the second biggest paid MMO atm. And the regional prices should expand, as the Croatian dude was crying about some pages ago. It means a little less per player, but you get more players to get even. Also, its a price easier to keep resubing constantly between patches, something they are already trying to bait with the Falcon mount.
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    Last edited by Rofel; 07-25-2017 at 05:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
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    And you're still acting as though I'm defending SE. I replied to a very specific post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katsuragi_ View Post
    And you're still acting as though I'm defending SE. I replied to a very specific post.
    Sorry you thought I was sarcastic. I agree with you. The company values bottom line over customer service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Sorry you thought I was sarcastic. I agree with you. The company values bottom line over customer service.
    No my dude, yours is not the post I meant to quote. The browser's form auto completion screwed it up and I hadn't noticed. Sorry.
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    Last edited by Katsuragi_; 07-25-2017 at 07:47 AM.
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    About ToS.
    1) EU ToS doesnt have a recurring word. It just say subscription. It also does not specify that steam is not included in all fees.
    FINAL FANTASY XIV Subscription Fee rates will be posted at http://sqex.to/ffxivfees_eu, and any changes to those rates will be posted with 30 days’ advance notice and notice will be provided to the Game community and by email to User’s registered email addresses.
    And russians play on eu servers mostly and use eu ToS.
    2) If we open a link we only see legacy sub there. So it either another broken ToS or way to loophole their ToS. Depending on the country its either SE fault for not posting non legacy sub or they can change any nonlegacy sub any time without any warning.
    Because SE has money and lawyers it will be 2nd, so noone is safe now. Not even NA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aishary View Post
    2) If we open a link we only see legacy sub there. So it either another broken ToS or way to loophole their ToS. Depending on the country its either SE fault for not posting non legacy sub or they can change any nonlegacy sub any time without any warning.
    Because SE has money and lawyers it will be 2nd, so noone is safe now. Not even NA.
    Let's wait and see the result if this situation occur in NA then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vocal_Night View Post
    Let's wait and see the result if this situation occur in NA then
    Stuff like this happens in the USA all the time. Most companies reserve the right to change pricing at any time for any reason with or without notification.
    There's nothing illegal here, so then we'd have to decide if we want to pay the higher price and keep playing or not pay and not keep playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aishary View Post
    2) If we open a link we only see legacy sub there. So it either another broken ToS or way to loophole their ToS. Depending on the country its either SE fault for not posting non legacy sub or they can change any nonlegacy sub any time without any warning.
    Because SE has money and lawyers it will be 2nd, so noone is safe now. Not even NA.
    http://support.eu.square-enix.com/fa...la=2&kid=64539
    The fees for FINAL FANTASY XIV are located here.
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