Steam payment HUGE price increase!

[Texa]

Is this 280 a week?

That's their monthly minimum wage.

[Texa]

Ouch, how much does rent and utilities cost there? I could not even live indoor for 280 a month here.

A lot of people in Brazil don't have air conditioning or reliable access to electricity or running water in their homes, so that lowers the price of utilities considerably.

The people who play the game are probably upper or middle class metropolitan residents. But like a high-end income for them would be like $800-600 monthly.

[Zarabeth]

A lot of people in Brazil don't have air conditioning or reliable access to electricity or running water in their homes, so that lowers the price of utilities considerably.

The people who play the game are probably upper or middle class metropolitan residents. But like a high-end income for them would be like $800-600 monthly.

Well if they do have electricity, as obviously everyone on this board has what does it cost? And what is the average rent? And food? ummm like how much is a gallon of milk? I'm really curious now, I like to learn about other countries.

[Luxerion]

Well if they do have electricity, as obviously everyone on this board has what does it cost? And what is the average rent? And food? ummm like how much is a gallon of milk? I'm really curious now, I like to learn about other countries.

Electricity, Renting, Food and Milk's prices depends on the place you're buying them. But if you rent a common apartment inside the city centre, you're paying between 800R$/2000R$. Electricity is dependant on how much you use, so the price can go from roughly 50R$ to 200R$.
Milk is quite expensive as well, with one liter going to almost 4R$ around here; And a normal meal can go from 15R$ to 30R$, all depending on where you buy it.

[Zarabeth]

Electricity, Renting, Food and Milk's prices depends on the place you're buying them. But if you rent a common apartment inside the city centre, you're paying between 800R$/2000R$. Electricity is dependant on how much you use, so the price can go from roughly 50R$ to 200R$.
Milk is quite expensive as well, with one liter going to almost 4R$ around here; And a normal meal can go from 15R$ to 30R$, all depending on where you buy it.

So the average person there can't even rent an apartment?!? That's so awful

[Texa]

So the average person there can't even rent an apartment?!? That's so awful

Families usually live together. Kids tend to stay with their parents until they marry which can be well after they start working. So everyone contributes.

[Rymm]

I'm really curious now, I like to learn about other countries.

The most illustrative example of the differences of the realities between US and BR I can give is this-
I am American and my husband is Brazilian. When I first met him I was going to college in a tiny city (~25,000 pop) in the rural midwestern US and working just under 40 hours per week as a cashier at Walmart. He was the head of I.T. for a decently sized tax agency located in the largest (and one of the wealthiest) cities in the entirety of South America, let alone his country.

Converted to raw USD, I was making about $200 more per month than he was. And this was ten years ago when the dollar was about x2 real, now it is x3.

I'm not even going to get into the argument of whether or not it's "fair" that the two countries should pay the same in USD but it really torques me off that they 1- never bothered to announce the change, 2- it took them two days to even acknowledge it to the community, and 3- dropped this on us immediately after the timer to refund the DLC expired. All this is especially galling coming on the heels of the debacle from a couple of weeks ago where there was a week+ where all non-NA players trying to log on to NA servers couldn't stay connected without a VPN. We got absolutely no customer support during that time and even getting SE to acknowledge us in the tech support forums was like pulling teeth.

I love this game, really I do, but my husband and I are going to have to sit down and think long and hard if we really want to give R$100 a month to a company that continually treats us like something they stepped in.

[Zarabeth]

I'm not even going to get into the argument of whether or not it's "fair" that the two countries should pay the same in USD.

I am in no way condoning what Squeenix did. I was simply curious about another country. I'm a nosy person and love information. I tried looking it up online but it didn't make a lot of sense to me, Your reply did so thank you. I don't pay fo0r my sub, a friend does because I can't afford the price of the sub each month. So, I do understand how upsetting this is.
One thing that is bugging me is all the comparisons to North America when the USA and Canada have nothing at all to do with any of this. This game is Japanese. The people running it are Japanese. You should be comparing to Japan or to the Yen.

[Rymm]

One thing that is bugging me is all the comparisons to North America when the USA and Canada have nothing at all to do with any of this. This game is Japanese. The people running it are Japanese. You should be comparing to Japan or to the Yen.

Because they are now charging us the equivalent of $15 USD, not ¥1,666.12 JPY. When SE starts charging us in yen and not dollars, I'm sure people will start making the comparisons.

[eschaton]

Twist this any way you like, it is really bad business practice from financial, with just bad ethical accounting practices in the way it has been done.

The breaking of their own ToS is mind-blowing. Loss of Reputation, loss of human capital and for what? An Excel presentation about projected short-therm gains? Did management even see this change and approach on their desk?

Ethical business vs maximizing profit; unethical companies are focused on short-term gains in any way, shape or form possible, not caring about (their) people at all, just profit. Textbook stuff really, these short-term profit goals are dwarfed by their longer-term losses.

All in all unbelievable from the FF company, who ever hired this greed monger should be called to Yoshida for a lesson about good business practices! You are hurting SE very badly!