Steam payment HUGE price increase!

[Kusaribe]

Greetings, everyone!

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LGM Enkrateia

Oh yeah! Be pleased and greatful that at least this thread is still open! Blow off some steam, say thank you and forget about this issue.

Hahaha. Oh man. That's so funny (situation as a whole and GM's/SE's reaction to it).

SE been dissapointing for quite some time now. So it was kinda expected. Tbf SE is not the only 'evil' corporation that does this kind of stuff to their customers. In our modern world you either get used to it and learn how to deal with it or you just don't have any relationships with those kind of corporations. Cheers.

[gustavray]

It's all about context here, doing one time payment during a period of time is recurring on your end. Setting a sub plan is recurring on the system and falls under the "recurring fee".

If you're from brazil the EU tos doesnt apply to you, it has nothing to do with your problem or anything. If you're russian then due to how it's written you can still salvage something and take legal action if you want.

Yes it does because it specifies that I nerd a recurring sub to play. I've been playing for 3 years. Was it magic, you'd say? And idc at this point if it won't apply for Brazil. I'm in this for BR, RU players, and any other developing or 3rd world countries that should get regional pricing.

[Sinistral]

Yes it does because it specifies that I nerd a recurring sub to play. I've been playing for 3 years. Was it magic, you'd say? And idc at this point if it won't apply for Brazil. I'm in this for BR, RU players, and any other developing or 3rd world countries that should get regional pricing.

You should really read why i posted again. You don't seem to understand that a "recurring fee" plan in the system is not the same as YOU paying month by month.

[gustavray]

You should really read why i posted again. You don't seem to understand that a "recurring fee" plan in the system is not the same as YOU paying month by month.

And what do you think? Even if they don't apply to Brazilian players at all, (they still do for Russians) is it right for them to not announce adjustments? Maybe on Lodestone. It was during "Mog Station maintenance" that this happened. Even after it happened, they still havent pronounced about the changes. A lot of ppl are expecting Lodestone announcements on things, and next time they try to sub they'll think why is it so expensive now? Nobody ever mentioned anything. Yet all we have is the response of a forum moderator here. This isn't even linked in the lodestation. I wouldn't have found this forum if I hadn't tried to make a purchase 2 days ago

[gustavray]

Yes it does because it specifies that I nerd a recurring sub to play. I've been playing for 3 years. Was it magic, you'd say? And idc at this point if it won't apply for Brazil. I'm in this for BR, RU players, and any other developing or 3rd world countries that should get regional pricing.

All I want is an explanation and a warning before it happens. Why were the prices not changed for 3 years? Why was HW do expensive in Brazil? Why do that one month after releasing an expansion? And if anything, a refund coz it was really expensive.

[Boreowl]

@gustavray
I understand you're upset dude, I'm also pretty down about this whole situation, but please calm down. It sounds like you're ready to point fingers at anyone crossing your path, and that's just not what we need right now.
Also, Sinistral is correct. The recurring fee is solely about recurring subs, so the fact that you chose to pay the one time sub every month is unrelated. And the EU ToS does not apply to you because you're playing in the NA servers and using the NA services. And you're in Brazil!

Getting angry will get you nowhere. In fact, as we just saw from Enkrateia, it might actually contribute to this thread being closed. So calm. down.

[gustavray]

@gustavray
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I apologise. The previous pages in this thread are rather triggering. Reading all of this is indeed making me angry. I don't really mean to point fingers at others, and as I tried to tell @Sinistral, even if it doesn't apply to me, idc, i want an answer, because RU players are also affected. And I'd like any other places to have regional pricings too. In fact, I was told by an Australian dude on Tonberry that he paid much less by using Steam Wallet, and so, I thought a lot of other places would too. I even recommended some friends in other countries to buy the game through Steam to play with me, since they'll pay in their local currencies. But apparently the change was only in Russia and Brazil.

Enkrateia's reply has already confirmed that our problem is not related to Steam and that it was, indeed, SE's decision. Also Steam itself does not set prices for things. The company is responsible for the prices on its products, and Steam has nothing to do with it as long as it's getting its own profits.
The price did change. The regional prices stablished by SE itself were kept to maintain customer loyalty in countries where the currency conversion was too high for the players to follow. After all, a lower margin of profit is still better than no profit at all, or at least that's what I had been taught.
I agree adjustments were in need, but this wasn't an adjustment. This was the removal of regional pricing without a warning or a proper explanation.

Indeed it is more profit for them. And subscription isn't the only way they make money through this game. Aside from that and expansions, there are also Optional Items, which ppl buy very frequently. I'd buy them myself sometimes if I saw myself with a few extra bucks on me.

[Boreowl]

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It's alright! I feel pretty triggered by some of the stuff I read too, but try to focus on the people willing to help. It's hard, but it's better than getting angry, because that can also give people reason to discredit our complaints.
Thank you for understanding though!

[Holygriever]

Greetings, everyone!

I once again want to thank you for keeping the thread civil, which has allowed it to stay open. However, I would like to point out that some of the arguments and explanations have become cyclical, and are continuing to go over the same points. For example, equality versus equity, which has been raised several times. While I can understand the desire to bring people over to your way of viewing the situation, this has become more aggressive as the thread has progressed, and new topics and points of view are not being raised. This may be in part that most of these points of view have fully explored and explained.

Should this aggressiveness become the tone of the discussion, the thread would need to be closed, since further discussions are not occurring. This would likely involve a locking of the thread. We have come this far into the discussion without needing to take a heavy hand at moderation, so the extreme violations that would require the Game Masters to remove the thread seems unlikely.

Please keep this in mind when continuing to post in this thread, so it can remain open as a way to further raise concerns about this change that you may have.

LGM Enkrateia

Hey everyone. Please calm yourselves down a bit, some of you just missed a moderator warning us that this thread is getting a bit more inflamed than ideal. If we keep at this and the thread gets locked, that would be a step backwards for us. So please, let's take a minute to breath in, aight?

Sorry, and thank you. Cheers~

[Vizu00]

Yes. They do. They set the price at $12/15 US, but Steam chose to charge you an unequivalent amount for years, which has now been rectified. SE cost has not changed... your issue lies with Steam.

The pricing on steam was chosen by SE, steam is unrelated. All prices at steam are chosen by the developer