Steam payment HUGE price increase!

[Hakim]

Saving my money when I don't make enough to justify spending it on a luxury isn't ignorant, it's financial responsibility.

I've been there. I worked full time for minimum wage and went to school full time. But you can be sure I wasn't blowing my money on a luxury subscription, let alone the system and internet connection required to play it. Having enough in savings to cover emergencies is way more important than spending money to blow off steam when there are free or cheaper alternatives.

I don't get why you think it's your job to decide how or why someone spends their money and judge them on that, it's their money. We're SE's customers and deserve everything that everyone does if not a little more, because now we have to play in a ridiculously lagged server and in english, for the same price someone that earns their money in USD and has their own regional server.

[Ckrownz]

snip.

So do you want everyone to be like you ? Live to work and nothing more because muh financial responsibility.

First, I assume that you don't live in a third world country because its seems you don't really know how things work here, its a mess (I can talk from the perspective of Brazil), you don't have the alternative of saving money because the economy here is on a crisis. Secondly, you dont choose what you like on life, some people like to play sports something really cheap, some people like us like to play video games because is the only thing that we like and make us distract from ours sproblems. Thirdly I said you sound like a ignorant because you are trying to talk about a thing that is not your reality, your country isnt the same as everyone (seems like this is kinda hard to you to understand).

Just stay quiet on this, you clearly dosnt understand the problem.

[SDaemon]

Just stay quiet on this, you clearly dosnt understand the problem.

I don't think he understand that ~$12USD to Americans isn't the same as ~12USD to people in other countries. You can't just convert currency and call it even. Economy doesn't work that way.

[Hakim]

Snip.

What you just said is definitely right, and we are all aware of that. These are not the people I mentioned in my post but they surely need to have their situation looked into. I can say for myself and my mates that we would've never paid the sub in the first place if they were not in the steam currency. These before-steam customers deserve even more than us that got our prices up suddenly and I hope they get that.

[Airget]

The fault in the whole changing price argument is SE didn't change the price of the subscription. What changed is the exchange rate. The exchange rate just happened to change the pricing of the sub for certain people in a negative way.(Truth be told if this occurred and let's say SE for some reason decided to have BRL pay 14.99 a month aka $4.77/month, no one would make a peep because it's in their favor.)

Basically the 30 days warning would occur if saying FFXIV decided to go from 14.99/month to 16.99 a month, that's changing the price of the subscription fee. What occurred with Russia and Brazil is a change in pricing due to currency rate conversion. What appears to be the reality is due to your weaker currency you are now paying more for your sub, but this isn't the result of SE changing the subscription fee, they changed the worth of your currency to be more in tune with the global market. And to that it is accurate. 28.99 in BRL was $9.23, and now as you said it's 41.99 which brings you to $13.36, which better represents the global cost.

I'm just saying, SE has no reason to release a 30 day warning about this because what occurred is the result of a currencies loss in value rather than them changing the price of subscription for all players otherwise everyone would be facing a price increase currently, but this is only hitting people of certain currency.

[DoppelShifter]

His email is on his site jim at thejimquisition dot com. I sent an email for him, but the more people contacting the more outlets, more chance SE will do something

There's also his unofficial subreddit, that he's said to visit quite often.

https://www.reddit.com/r/JimSterling..._pricehike_in/

[albertopin]

People, ive read almost all
The posts and you seem very infuriated.
But i see mainly different viewpoints from the people who got affected. If you want a real change try to get
Out of your system the "fairness of the price" and focus on the ToS and the lack of communication.
Piece of advice, the official forums tend to contain the damage. You must take the conversation elsewere.

[Ckrownz]

People, ive read almost all
The posts and you seem very infuriated.
But i see mainly different viewpoints from the people who got affected. If you want a real change try to get
Out of your system the "fairness of the price" and focus on the ToS and the lack of communication.
Piece of advice, the official forums tend to contain the damage. You must take the conversation elsewere.

We should put in every page of this thread a message of "This is not about fairness", maybe people will see it.

I'll start: This discussion is not about fairness

[Boreowl]

I'm just saying, SE has no reason to release a 30 day warning about this because what occurred is the result of a currencies loss in value rather than them changing the price of subscription for all players otherwise everyone would be facing a price increase currently, but this is only hitting people of certain currency.

But SE had kept the same unchanged price for years on Steam for both Brazilian and Russian players. If they desired the pricing for us to be in tune with currency rate conversion, then perhaps they should've done that from the start.
They should have known that, by taking this route, price adjustments would be needed someday, but when it was time to finally do it, they did it in the most disrespectful and shady way possible.
Also, what people are upset about is that this very much feels like a scam, specially because it's been just a month after SB launched and on top of that both ARR and the expansions are still in the same old price on Steam. 105.99 BRL, the price for Stormblood, is roughly 34 USD. But they haven't touched that, only the subscription fee. If they want their game to follow currency conversion correctly, then why not fix those prices as well?

And this is a price change in a way because the fee remained untouched for Steam users for too long. It's not like it has been like that for a month, so we should expect price fluctuation because we're paying for something in USD when our own currency isn't USD. This was more like as if SE at first understood the economy in the countries affected and agreed to make the game more accessible, and then when it was time for adjustments (and with a terrible, terrible timing, might I add), they just ignored whatever it was they took into account when they first settled for the "fixed prices" and changed it without notice. And we weren't even worth a more thorough thinking on the pricing, either. We've been just discarded.

I understand it that they needed to make this correction, trust me, I truly do. And I believe everyone else here understands it too. But the way things were handled, silently and disregarding the players affected is what put us all off.

[SecretCrowds]

We should put in every page of this thread a message of "This is not about fairness", maybe people will see it.

I'll start: This discussion is not about fairness

Yeah right. I see lots of posts talking about fairness from the Brazilian and Russian players and how they should not be paying a higher price. They are highly upvoted too. Maybe you don't believe that it's unfair. However, based on the responses in this thread, that sentiment is not what the other Brazilian and Russian players share.

As I said in my earlier post, I can agree with the communications part but not how it's fair for people from 2 countries (Brazil and Russia) to pay a cheaper price than anyone else around the world.