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    Melorie Valliere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indefiinable View Post

    But that is how exchange rates work isn't it?
    Read the thread, since this point has already been discussed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonsilt View Post
    p.s. I'd say with +300% increase forget about anything from it, it's outrageous at this point.
    If it's kinda hard on brazilian players (that decided to play the game only because of steam currency system), I can't even imagine what it is for our fellow russians. We deserved at least a warning, honestly.
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    Aldruth Kemp
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    How would you like the end of PS3 support done this style? Everything is nice and calm until 4.05, but then you download the patch and suddenly you have to buy PS4. Cannot afford it? Wouldn't have bought Stormblood if you knew about it beforhand? Who cares!
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    Princess Lunafreya
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    Quote Originally Posted by EriShvakh View Post
    You are, yes. Let me explain this to you really simply. Tomorrow when you decide to pay your sub, you suddenly discover that it costs you 35$ instead of 15$. What's the big deal, it's just 20$ more, who cares!
    They do not understand this, they need to raise prices three times, as they did for Russian players, let all increase the subscription price by 300%, then it will be interesting to see ....


    Quote Originally Posted by Esmart View Post
    How would you like the end of PS3 support done this style? Everything is nice and calm until 4.05, but then you download the patch and suddenly you have to buy PS4. Cannot afford it? Wouldn't have bought Stormblood if you knew about it beforhand? Who cares!
    As you argue, comparing the prices for one and the support of other platforms is different, let's not argue! Nobody needs it!
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    Last edited by EkaterinaMikota; 07-20-2017 at 03:53 PM.

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    Sophia Miyuki
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    They do not understand this, they need to raise prices three times, as they did for Russian players, let all increase the subscription price by 300%, then it will be interesting to see ....
    That would mean they will close the game as it would go from 15 $ to 45 $.
    Sorry to hear that this happened to you guys, but others which pay the full price in Euro or dollars even thou are not paid in the same coin will play the same amount ( which is in my case 13 euro regardless of market fluctuations to exchange rates).
    Now , some of us understand that it's not pretty when something discriminatory positive is taken away (as this is what is ) , but also try to understand that until a formal answer from SE side is received all this talk is irrelevant and without any surprise will attract negative backlash from the other player communities .
    Regardless of the above said, I hope this is cleared it up soon and everything will go into the normal flow .

    @Niqote that is steam business plan for regions which don't have the gdp on par with other western countries and there is no reason to go aggressive towards the players + awesome signature , really gains/retains attention.
    Still, I find it very curious that in 48h there is no official answer from either Steam or SE....
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    Last edited by cougarel; 07-20-2017 at 06:19 PM. Reason: Idea in progress
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    I'm going to use some words loosely since I don't know why they decided to charge you so little in the first place.

    It seems like they charged you ''wrong'' in the first place and you were paying less then you should have.

    Now you are paying the correct (???) price. ($13.3USD rather then $9.20USD)

    Heck, you were paying the same as a Legacy Character on a 6 month payment block! That was definitely wrong.

    Standard US per month is 30 days = $14.99 on the NA webpage.
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    Zbyszek Slaven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    I'm going to use some words loosely since I don't know why they decided to charge you so little in the first place.

    It seems like they charged you ''wrong'' in the first place and you were paying less then you should have.

    Now you are paying the correct (???) price. ($13.3USD rather then $9.20USD)

    Heck, you were paying the same as a Legacy Character on a 6 month payment block! That was definitely wrong.

    Standard US per month is 30 days = $14.99 on the NA webpage.
    Let me explain a little.
    Indignation in Russia and I think Brazil has emerged mainly because the level of income in these countries is lower than in the same Europe or the United States.
    You pay $ 15 for a subscription, for you it's a trifle, less than 1% of your salary. In russia and in brazil these 15 dollars can be 10% of the monthly salary and even more.
    It is at this and causes a protest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tjil View Post
    Let me explain a little.
    Indignation in Russia and I think Brazil has emerged mainly because the level of income in these countries is lower than in the same Europe or the United States.
    You pay $ 15 for a subscription, for you it's a trifle, less than 1% of your salary. In russia and in brazil these 15 dollars can be 10% of the monthly salary and even more.
    It is at this and causes a protest.
    Ah, I see. It was my assumption there would be some kind of 'middle ground' regarding the pricing structure.
    Thanks for the information!
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    To understand the solvency, you need to analyze the levels of the minimum wage.
    For the USA ~ 1300 USD a month
    For Russia ~ 200 USD a month.
    Now calculate how much in percentage a person spends on the game in their country. Subscription $ 14.99
    For the USA - 1.15%
    For Russia -7.5% (before the price change - 2.5%)
    This clearly shows why people are so outraged by the price change.
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    Kaylee Frye
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marrodin View Post
    To understand the solvency, you need to analyze the levels of the minimum wage.
    For the USA ~ 1300 USD a month
    For Russia ~ 200 USD a month.
    Now calculate how much in percentage a person spends on the game in their country. Subscription $ 14.99
    For the USA - 1.15%
    For Russia -7.5% (before the price change - 2.5%)
    This clearly shows why people are so outraged by the price change.
    What you don't seem to understand is that in the countries with higher wages, we also have a MUCH higher cost of living. So while I can understand that you are all upset over the new price, many others have been paying full price all along who are no better off than you are.
    What I DO understand is that doubling (or tripling in Russia's case) with no notice is wrong. Especially right after a huge expansion. I don't care where you live, that would make anyone upset. I would be furious. Yes, the ToS says SE can do this at any time but I think it's not right.
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    Arty Highbrush
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tjil View Post
    Let me explain a little.
    Indignation in Russia and I think Brazil has emerged mainly because the level of income in these countries is lower than in the same Europe or the United States.
    You pay $ 15 for a subscription, for you it's a trifle, less than 1% of your salary. In russia and in brazil these 15 dollars can be 10% of the monthly salary and even more.
    It is at this and causes a protest.
    There are countries that have the same level of income that don't have these lower prices. I live in one, and our level of income is the same as Brasil, yet we always had to pay the same as everyone else. This change brings everyone to the same level. Why would they be able to pay less than me, when we're in the same boat? Buy 2 less pizzas a month and you can afford the sub.
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