Cracked CRYSTALS

[SmallHobbit]

you really dont need the lvl 6 materia to reach the currently stats.

regards hobbit

[Mandudez]

you really dont need the lvl 6 materia to reach the currently stats.

regards hobbit

not the point

regards mandudez

[vio_p]

you really dont need the lvl 6 materia to reach the currently stats.

regards hobbit

for 1 and 2 star maybe but what about for people who are doing it early in preparation for 3 and 4 star builds?

Also it doesnt change the fact that crafters and gatherers should be given the same options as battle classes.

[Nezerius]

for 1 and 2 star maybe but what about for people who are doing it early in preparation for 3 and 4 star builds?

If by "early in preparation" you mean people melding for 4-star stats, then that'd be quite silly. We'll definitely be having a new DoH set for that tier of recipes.

[QT_Melon]

Also it doesnt change the fact that crafters and gatherers should be given the same options as battle classes.

That isn't a fact though, it's an opinion. I am not being insulting, just correcting your logic here. Crafting will lever be the same as battle and should not as I explained in this thread

Your crafting gear spiritbonds rather quickly if you craft a lot. It's a reward system for using the gear for its purpose. The default tier is V for 70 gear, but it has a chance of giving you VI, the meld rate is quicker with a pot from ALC HQ only need one materia melded to spiritbond faster (which most of the left side has 2 slots save for belt) and 2 for NQ gear.

I do agree that Yellow scrips should be a used as a reward for Tier 6 but only at a high cost. As much as I hate token bloat, but making it so that you need something like 6000 scrips for a tier 6 would cost about the same (due to mat consumption) as buying it off the marketboard as it goes now. (This tier and probably other ones) Yellow scrip gear was not intended for an omnicrafter, but those who needed to get some kind of gear and not worry about the melds. Or people who wanted to glamour.

[QT_Melon]

For those of you ready to crash the market here is the guide to spiritbonding for profit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ets_these_are/

And https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...tbond/dkkzbzk/

So basically it's saying do what you're intended to do - craft items and you will get materia. With the new spiritbond potions and items this isn't as bad as before. If you can't afford to be making HQ gear each time, buy NQ items from the vendor and add 2 materia instead and it will spiritbond at the same rate as 1 HQ gear and 1 materia.

Hope this brings complaints down on materia accessibility and we'll probably see complaints that materia is too easy to get now.

[vio_p]

That isn't a fact though, it's an opinion. I am not being insulting, just correcting your logic here. Crafting will lever be the same as battle and should not as I explained

its a figure of speech but anyway...

I'm not saying that they are the same, but I am making the comparison of crafters / gatherers to battle classes because of how battle classes seem to be gifted free materia if they run certain dungeons and not to mention how much easier it is to obtain cracked clusters, even if it is biased towards tanks mostly and sometimes healers.

that was the logic that you were trying to correct.

basically crafters and gatherers should be given the ability to pick up free materia too through some sort of game mechanic which is biased towards rank 5 materia but also has the chance for rank 6 too.

There is still more content and changes to come, so we will have to see what happens next.

[QT_Melon]

its a figure of speech but anyway...

I'm not saying that they are the same, but I am making the comparison of crafters / gatherers to battle classes because of how battle classes seem to be gifted free materia if they run certain dungeons and not to mention how much easier it is to obtain cracked clusters, even if it is biased towards tanks mostly and sometimes healers.

Goodness. I'll restate again since you didn't read it.

The main focus of this game is battle. You can't really craft end game until you get to 70 in a battle class.
It's "easier" because the main goal is to BATTLE, with other players. You fight to get clusters. Be this in a 4 man dungeon, partnering up with other people to do hunts to get a higher score on hunt seals. You work with others.

More people do BATTLE content, so the reward is BATTLE materia. And of course it is biased towards healers and tanks because there's more people playing as a DPS (though depending on the server sometimes DPS can get the bonus as well).

Your main goal as a crafter is to CRAFT. Your main goal as a GATHERER is to GATHER. You can do this without being in a party, or raid group. Your gear doesn't require high level matera, unlike a raid where some won't let you in unless you have tier 6 melds on your gear. Your reward for crafting and gathering is materia. That means you do red scrips turn ins, Zhloe to get more red scrips, or spiritbond.

Since melding spiritbonds items faster, and you can get Better Crowned Pie, and Spiritbonding potions these stack. You are guaranteed tier V from the 70 gear and 20% chance of it being tier 6. You do NOT need HQ gear to spiritbond. Keep your original set if you don't want to re-meld, and buy NQ gear from the vendors and put in 2 junk materia, it spiritbonds at the same rate as HQ with one materia. If you don't want to do the main goal of crafting/gathering to get materia which is rewarded when you do it. You can't complain that the system is unfair.

The same time it took to wait for a dungeon due to DPS queues, I spiritbonded the left side of my gear and got more materia than running a battle class dungeon :P
*you can also gamble the more "useless" materia with Mutamix.

[Kabooa]

Filthy Logic.

Get outta here with all dat noise.

[QT_Melon]

Get outta here with all dat noise.

Sorry, I'll start screaming about crafting needing human sacrifices, expecting dogs and cats to live together and engage in mass hysteria

That said. Found some great crafts that are for grinding during a spiritbond the prices of these items (the crafted result) tend to be pretty good as well/

The only one that is kinda screwed on this is Culinarian and (probably Leatherworker if you don't have ALC) but considering food is always needed it's not horrible.

WVR: Twinthread. This is excellent for spiritbonding because its just Twincoon and Effervescent Water. In addition, you can also turn the silks into Cloth.
CRP: Zelkova Lumber. You don't need anything else and you can use it later to craft more right side gear. Great win.
LTW: Marid or Gazelle, if you don't have ALC or need to farm the skins not as great because you need the Persimmon Tannin.
ALC: Persimmon Tannin good stuff, helps a lot of LTW out and gives it in batches of 3. Great stuff
ARM/BSM: Molybdenum Ingot. It's needed end game anyways so get your cobalt and molybdenum on.

If you have a gatherer, may as well do the same for their gear as you farm the mats.