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    Season Four Tier List

    Here's this very unoriginal thread idea and topic of conversation!

    As with any tier list, this is a means to educate, discuss, and debate viability of job classes in a competitive environment. It is not intended to discourage players from playing the class of their choice or to defame any class.

    So let's get started; our obvious four categories:

    TANK : (Updated: 07APR17)
    A: PLD
    B: WAR
    C: DRK

    HEAL : (Updated: 15APR17)
    A: WHM
    B: AST
    C: SCH

    DPS : DRG, MNK, NIN
    A:
    B:
    C:

    R.DPS : BLM, BRD, MCH, SMN
    A:
    B:
    C:

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    Tank Discussion
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirch View Post
    I choose pld top for a simple reason, its utility and support role is syncronizes very well with the party healer, tho there are only few paladins on the top rankings i do believe it has the highest value of the 3 tanks in this current patch; WARs bursts are awesome yet easily counterable (those cleaves tho), its storms shine in pvp and it can counter bursts on it in many ways from mitigating damages to self recovering tons of hp; unfortunately for DRK you can't do much, since it has a very low damage burst it is more like a DoT job yet its CC are pretty nice, also its debuffs that increase/decrease damage dealt.
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII View Post
    DRK has sick synergy with like sch/smn or sch/mch but everyone has to play in tight spaces or enemy team has to be braindead and stack up. If all those conditions are present, DRK is a monster, but outside of DA Carve and Spit does negligible supporting damage and that's where one of many weaknesses begins.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zensho View Post
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    Heals Discussion:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirch View Post
    I'd say WHM tops the current meta thanks to its multiple CC skills and lol Sacred Prism is op literally; AST works more as healer buffer and has great uses thanks to its recent buffs. as for scholar I think it is really a difficult job to use in pvp since you have to pre-shield bursts, play with your pet and you have only few CC skills compared to the other two healers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Rum is the exception to the rule, I think.
    I mained SCH for two seasons and I wouldn't say I was bad, but it's certainly not a top tier healer for the Feast.
    Quote Originally Posted by A_Hortensia View Post
    My logic for WHM is utility; heavy, bind, pushback, aoe stun, and >SLEEP!<
    Their ability to heavy a target for the DPS, CCing aggressors, and sleeping opposing healer in the most critical moments.
    The only weakness they suffer is a lack of movement capability while healing; and perhaps some MP conservation issues that they suffer in a PvE setting.
    A VIT heavy WHM is better equipped to deal with the movement issue as they are able to pseudo tank in within a Sacred Prism.
    MP conservation isn't as glaring with piety heavy gear, and ever less a concern when paired with a MCH or BRD.
    Repose synergy with PLD shield bash can technically remove an opponent from relevancy for an entire 18 seconds.
    Benediction shines always; an instant response to a melee LB, the go to ability to reset after an attunement save, or the problem solver for a tank out of holmgang or living dead.

    So after all that, why do I think AST is also top tier?
    To keep the point simple, the major contributing factor is mobility.
    Instant cast cures, shields, and buffs make for an extremely evasive and slippery healer.
    They can be where they are needed and respond faster to burst; which as everyone should know is the main method of kill scores.
    Retrogradation is a better "WHM Assize"; both as an AoE Esuna and Dispel; also instant.
    Bole and Balance take a 10% hit in PVP areas but still offer a resource that no other job can offer.
    The main argument I really want to push for AST is pure mobility through a larger resource of instant cast abilities.

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    Updated tank listings; will revamp later if there's any patches or community adjustment.
    Updated heals listings; will revamp later if there's any patches or community adjustment.

    Let's talk melee DPS!
    MNK is rock you. DRG will find you, and he will kill you (while making his BRD and MCH better). NIN is buffed, lots of tricks, on their way up!?
    What's the scoop? Who's the real deal? Which DPS stands on top in the Feast to their fullest potential?
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    Last edited by A_Hortensia; 04-21-2017 at 11:42 AM.