O2S already down...

[Arutan]

I haven't put a foot in there yet, waiting the evening to go with FC. But people in the world first race already downed O2S. I know they are hardcore gamer, but... this sound rather disappointing, knowing it took them 4 hours to down A10S in the last race. I feared that the difficulty would drop even more than it did with the creator and it looks like my fear were justified.
SE, why are you giving up like this on your raider? First gear getting more and more ugly, and now a difficulty constantly dropping down each new raid tier... At this rate you could just stop trying to make Savage raid and just leave the story one, it would be the same.

[Chiramu]

Don't worry, the people who downed it will be the people you don't want to group with :P.

[Atlas-04]

What was the clear rate on A12S? Abysmal if i remember right. Just the because THE best players in the world clear it very fast doesn't mean it isn't challenging.

[Arutan]

What was the clear rate on A12S? Abysmal if i remember right. Just the because THE best players in the world clear it very fast doesn't mean it isn't challenging.

You can still evaluate the difficulty of the thing by comparing clear time with previous race and the rate of clearing. And overall it's actually taking 4 times less time for most of the participants.

[Eldevern]

You can still evaluate the difficulty of the thing by comparing clear time with previous race and the rate of clearing. And overall it's actually taking 4 times less time for most of the participants.

Not necessary if you consider the game is 4 years old. After Coil, Alexander and so, some mechanics are already known. I suppose world first teams can guess a part of mechanics SE devs will include.

[Driavna]

Not necessary if you consider the game is 4 years old. After Coil, Alexander and so, some mechanics are already known. I suppose world first teams can guess a part of mechanics SE devs will include.

People get better with time, that's true, anyway OS1 is ok and the new twist (it's a minor change) is fun. First bosses are supposed to encourage people to keep going and help with gear for the others, not everything has to be the ultimate challenge.

But, as I said before, once the bulk of "good" players complete the duty even OS1 is going to be a nightmare if you pug it.

[Malkomia]

What was the clear rate on A12S? Abysmal if i remember right. Just the because THE best players in the world clear it very fast doesn't mean it isn't challenging.

Yeah but it's an indicator for the difficulty.
Midas took a lot more time to clear and most of the normal raid groups couldn't beat it.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

What was the clear rate on A12S? Abysmal if i remember right. Just the because THE best players in the world clear it very fast doesn't mean it isn't challenging.

Actually, the clear for Creator were substantially higher.

[Ibi]

Actually, the clear for Creator were substantially higher.

The last Lucky Bancho survey that highlights it is the one from 3/13/17, which puts the overall clear rate (at that time) at 7.3%.

However, that's primarily supported by JP servers, with their clear rate of 15.4%, with NA and EU servers coming in at paltry 2.7% and 2.9% clear rates respectively.

[Driavna]

It seems the first two turns are rather "easy". A totally new player (started playing with SB) from my FC already cleared 1.0 with his first random party via raid finder. I guess it will become harder and harder till all the "good" players que only for completed duty and pugs will become again a headache.