Tank Scaling still a massive issue

[eagledorf]

There's actually no reason to believe we'll scale slower or faster since that's behind the scenes and they can always put more STR on left-side gear or accessories in a future patch to make up the difference if the scaling does become a problem.

The problem is Fending gear is still a crap drop, you feel bad as a static to get such a worthless upgrade. I remember when I was doing Gordias I literally never used any piece of Fending gear that dropped while we were raiding, they were just put in my inventory and forgotten. While that will no longer be the case, why are they insisting on making one slot of gear for just one role so incredibly bad? We should be excited when a tank accessory (any accessory) drops, not disappointed.

[whiskeybravo]

There's actually no reason to believe we'll scale slower or faster since that's behind the scenes and they can always put more STR on left-side gear or accessories in a future patch to make up the difference if the scaling does become a problem.

The problem is Fending gear is still a crap drop, you feel bad as a static to get such a worthless upgrade. I remember when I was doing Gordias I literally never used any piece of Fending gear that dropped while we were raiding, they were just put in my inventory and forgotten. While that will no longer be the case, why are they insisting on making one slot of gear for just one role so incredibly bad? We should be excited when a tank accessory (any accessory) drops, not disappointed.

Exactly. It's a step in the right direction more or less, they can always make adjustments further down the road if needed.

[Sipherous]

Its not a problem if a Tank uses their tanking stance to build aggro before going into DPS stance. I did it fine when first starting out and with my raid group rocked the i270 slaying and pulled in sword. You cant avoid you enimity combo, you trade dmg for extra enimity so be it, DPS is youyr tertiary job as a tank (I am guilty of being a greedy fuck mind you) Ideally each tank should rotate one hate combo after dropping their tank stance after their burst phase. During pull useing 2 hate combos will normally keep you well out of reach of any DPS including Sam. the net loss is minimal overall. Also after the VIT changes in 3.2 keeping hate was harder because the VIT+ STR scaling nerfed out total output by 10% from when we wore full slaying. This is roughly comparable to that but is a straight increase overall.

[BlackironTarkus]

Sipherous. You misunderstand.

If this keeps as it is, you will eventually never be able to hold aggro even sitting in tank stance and spamming aggro combo.

For every 10 str we gain on side, dps gain 35. Eventually you can't hold hate to begin with unless se wants to buff our aggro output every other patch.

[Feidam]

Sipherous. You misunderstand.

If this keeps as it is, you will eventually never be able to hold aggro even sitting in tank stance and spamming aggro combo.

For every 10 str we gain on side, dps gain 35. Eventually you can't hold hate to begin with unless se wants to buff our aggro output every other patch.

You are overlooking tenacity and how it factors in as well while solely focusing on str. Yes str gives the largest dps boost between the two stats individually. However, combined the two stats play off each other to grant "X" effect. There is way more that can be tweaked to maintain threat levels than them just adding str. Focusing solely on str makes it seem like you are just wanting str to boost your personal dps. Not saying this is indeed your meaning just the perception I'm getting. Granted I only dabble in tanking but from the outside looking in that is the intial impression
I got.

[Kabooa]

Granted I only dabble in tanking but from the outside looking in that is the intial impression
I got.

It's literally a DPS argument. Even if strength didn't get put on fending accessories, there'd be no issue holding threat at all in end-game content due to Shirk, absurd enmity modifiers, and all but Samurai and Monk having Threat drops.

And when the next expansion comes out, they rework and rebalance again. Threat isn't the issue.

I can't say this enough that Threat isn't the issue.

[Feidam]

It's literally a DPS argument. Even if strength didn't get put on fending accessories, there'd be no issue holding threat at all in end-game content due to Shirk, absurd enmity modifiers, and all but Samurai and Monk having Threat drops.

And when the next expansion comes out, they rework and rebalance again. Threat isn't the issue.

I can't say this enough that Threat isn't the issue.

But he is arguing that it will be, but it is coming off to me as but my deeps! Never mind he is ignoring that so far dps primary stat gains on accessories are by the same amounts. So we are all scaling together. So far. Granted I have not inspected every piece of gear 310 to 320 yet. But I'm working on my 320 set.

[Argyle_Darkheart]

2 STR difference between i320 and i340 is a sick joke. SE clearly does not understand this issue, at all.

We're inevitably going to get Fending accessories as a drop, and the raid is going to be sorely disappointed. This is THE issue.

[TankHunter678]

Tanks should be more then a convenient meatshield that makes mobs look at them instead of you.

[HappyHubris]

Tanks should be more then a convenient meatshield that makes mobs look at them instead of you.

That's what tanking is. The problem is that SE made the role less challenging than other MMOs, so players turn to damage as a way of contributing and differentiating themselves.