[dev1081]Achievements already earned

[Giant]

This is very bad act from SE to people who already 50s on gathering and crafting.

They basically telling them RE-DO it again while you giving us monthly-fee so you'll be busy till 2.0 is ready

Dear SE, do you know that I need to do :

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yes, 3 times just to finish 1 gathering job

[Magnesium02]

It is one thing to say that a r50 class would have fulfilled all the requirements, but what about a r32 class or a r43 class? How would you calculate synths per level? How would you pro-rata the percent of achevement earned? And if you used leves mostly to grind you would have done less synths than if you manually grinded every single level.

Yes it sucks that we have to re do each craft level. And it will take time. If you are dedicated and you really want the acievement and the item then you will do it. If you can't be bothered to put the effort in, then you won't get it. Simple as that.

And who said that you have to have everything NOW (am reminded of Charlie's Chocolate Factory). These accomplishments weren't made to be attained all in one week or a month. Some of them are Long term, designed to give you a goal to spend the next few months on. Otherwise you'd have all the accomplishments done and nothing left to do, get bored and leave, which isn't what SE wants.

[Jinko]

I agree with this, sad thing is the gathering achivements require 3 times as much work as you have to do it 3 times per region.

Ridiculous.

I bet the use of bots in this game has seen a massive increase, congrats SE.

[Giant]

instead of saying syn 20, 300 1000 2000, they should have done it "Get lv-10, Get Lv20 .. etc" it is easy to find better ways to do it than just forcing people to re-do everything on gathering and crafting

Simply, it is not a nice way to reward people for doing things in-game. not at all

I lost my faith on SE. It looks like 'data wipe' for me. if they doing it now, what prevent them to do it again later when PS2 release / 2.0 release !! what prevent them from saying to raise your cap you need to get X achievement !!

I do not trust SE anymore

sorry, but this is my opinion.

[northernsky]

How come many other achievements have been automatically awarded when unlocked (think # of mobs killed)?

Are you sure it's not because you leveled your crafting classes mostly through leves (especially levels 0-20) and that you did not actually perform the required amount of "true" (assuming that leve synth don't count as an achivement) synths?

[Magnesium02]

instead of saying syn 20, 300 1000 2000, they should have done it "Get lv-10, Get Lv20 .. etc" it is easy to find better ways to do it than just forcing people to re-do everything on gathering and crafting

Um, these accomplishments already exist. The crafting and gathering ones are extras. And they aren't forcing you. Why does no one get this? It is optional. If you are a true avid accomplishment hunter you will go back and re-do all the work because you really want it. If you can't be bothered, then why complain?

How come many other achievements have been automatically awarded when unlocked (think # of mobs killed)?

Because all the other accomplishments were things that were already being calculated and recorded on your lodestone history page. Things like materia conversions/melds was also stored as when they were introduced, there were already plans for the new achievement system. It is just synthesis and gathering that there was no data for, and therefore nothing to base pre-filled accomplishments for

[normalforce]

instead of saying syn 20, 300 1000 2000, they should have done it "Get lv-10, Get Lv20 .. etc" it is easy to find better ways to do it than just forcing people to re-do everything on gathering and crafting

Simply, it is not a nice way to reward people for doing things in-game. not at all

I lost my faith on SE. It looks like 'data wipe' for me. if they doing it now, what prevent them to do it again later when PS2 release / 2.0 release !! what prevent them from saying to raise your cap you need to get X achievement !!

I do not trust SE anymore

sorry, but this is my opinion.

If I'm not mistaken, there is an achievement for getting a gathering class to level 10, 20, etc. There's also an achievement for gathering a certain number of times in a particular region. You got level 50 in one or more (all) gathering classes. Great. But you want all the regional gathering achievements given to you? When you might not have gathered the required number of times in every region?

Let's muddy the waters even farther with gathering leves that give bonus exp in terms of a leve completion bonus and when using guardian's favor, quest/mission rewards excepted with your gathering job, or just bonus exp gained from reading one of those GC manuals.

However, for every 10 levels you earned in a gathering class, you most likely made the number of gatherings they're asking for that grade (20, 300, 1000, 2000 and 4000) and I think you could make a strong case that, by default, you should have had the gathering achievements unlocked based on your level for the region associated with your starting city. (For example: if I'm a level 20 botanist from Gridania, I get the grade I and grade II achievements unlocked for the Black Shroud region.) But nothing more. The rest are on you to do.

Achievements are meant to be busy work. So let's get busy.

[Giant]

If I'm not mistaken, there is an achievement for getting a gathering class to level 10, 20, etc. There's also an achievement for gathering a certain number of times in a particular region. You got level 50 in one or more (all) gathering classes. Great. But you want all the regional gathering achievements given to you? When you might not have gathered the required number of times in every region?

Let's muddy the waters even farther with gathering leves that give bonus exp in terms of a leve completion bonus and when using guardian's favor, quest/mission rewards excepted with your gathering job, or just bonus exp gained from reading one of those GC manuals.

However, for every 10 levels you earned in a gathering class, you most likely made the number of gatherings they're asking for that grade (20, 300, 1000, 2000 and 4000) and I think you could make a strong case that, by default, you should have had the gathering achievements unlocked based on your level for the region associated with your starting city. (For example: if I'm a level 20 botanist from Gridania, I get the grade I and grade II achievements unlocked for the Black Shroud region.) But nothing more. The rest are on you to do.

Achievements are meant to be busy work. So let's get busy.

Hi normalforce

I been forced to do fishing @ LL to get guil-mark, Miner @ Ul'dah to get guild-mark & Botany @ Grid to get Guil-Mark ;p

I did it the way SE asked me to do it

Now they change their mind

no guild-mark
you need to do all region gathering

[normalforce]

Hi normalforce

I been forced to do fishing @ LL to get guil-mark, Miner @ Ul'dah to get guild-mark & Botany @ Grid to get Guil-Mark ;p

I did it the way SE asked me to do it

Now they change their mind

no guild-mark
you need to do all region gathering

Yes, but you still didn't do your Fishing in Gridania or Ul'dah, your Botany in Limsa or Ul'dah or your Mining in Limsa or Gridania. You, just like me, followed SE's plan for where we should gather.

But, perhaps they'll let us use our old guild mark points to "buy" achievements? For gathering grades I thru V (which amounts to 20, 300, 1000, 2000 and 4000 gathers) it would cost 200, 3000, 10000, 20000 and 40000 for each grade per region. Or 73200 per region.

[Giant]

Yes, but you still didn't do your Fishing in Gridania or Ul'dah, your Botany in Limsa or Ul'dah or your Mining in Limsa or Gridania. You, just like me, followed SE's plan for where we should gather.

But, perhaps they'll let us use our old guild mark points to "buy" achievements? For gathering grades I thru V (which amounts to 20, 300, 1000, 2000 and 4000 gathers) it would cost 200, 3000, 10000, 20000 and 40000 for each grade per region. Or 73200 per region.

You are right normalforce, but level-1 Miner/Botany/Fisher will go level up on all this area instead of sticking to one and he'll get achievement "while leveling" the 50s ppl still have to re-do it again in all this 3 area too (>.<)

damn you SE, at least give me full achievement for LL *lol*

anyway, I'm sending daily feedback to SE, hope they listen.

Link to Feedback :
https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...a=1&p=0&fo=288


* Edit :
forgot to mention : I have to do all crafting too m(_._)m