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    Drakeos's Avatar
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    Drakeos Shadowbane
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    Botters has RUINED PvP :(

    Can SE PLEASE do something about this PLEASE this becoming like WoW PvP again
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Outside removing any reward from losing and ban bots there is nothing they can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Outside removing any reward from losing and ban bots there is nothing they can do.
    I've been asking for no rewards on a loss for years now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I've been asking for no rewards on a loss for years now...
    lol...that sounds like a great idea if you want PvP removed from the game due to 99.9% of the player base ignoring it completely...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerinn View Post
    lol...that sounds like a great idea if you want PvP removed from the game due to 99.9% of the player base ignoring it completely...
    Exactly. There is a reason why they put all the mounts, minions and other rewards behind PVP. People need an incentive to play it. PVP can be really frustrating, especially Frontline. Getting at least something out of it, even if you lose, makes it a bit better. If only winners will get something you will have the following situation: Big toxicity in chat because if you dont win, you just wasted your time. This will probably scare away any new people and probably lots of older ones. (There is a reason why we dont have chat in Feast anymore..) Also with three teams, even if you have a good team, there is still a quite big chance to lose. So you will punish the majority of the PVP players. This in turn makes the game mode utterly useless for most people.

    If only a really small amount of people play this mode then SE might not even make something new for it. Thus in the end its even a loss for the hardcore pvp players. Having bots in this mode but at the same time more players playing it, might be better for SE than barely anyone playing it. Because it needs to be worth all the time and budget that is used for this.
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    Kasu Kabe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    If only a really small amount of people play this mode then SE might not even make something new for it. Thus in the end its even a loss for the hardcore pvp players. Having bots in this mode but at the same time more players playing it, might be better for SE than barely anyone playing it. Because it needs to be worth all the time and budget that is used for this.
    Consideration for PvP in a nutshell. "Bah, that's just PvP, doesn't matter much right? Those peasans should be glad that SE throw a bone to them from time to time"
    Boting is not a necessary evil, it's a cancer and a mmo killer. Crafters hate them for a good reason.


    This particulary astonishing how people defend a broken rewarding system just because "muh pvp", while "horror stories from duty finder" posts get tons of reply, along with all the critics on jump potion players and PotD lvl'd players. More than ever, pvp doesn't teach you how to play your job.

    If SE wants to bring PvE rewards in pve, idc because that doesn't change anything for me. But 1st, only in a system that actually reward people for their efforts (like it has already been said plenty of time, with healing/dmg done), and 2nd, it needs to bring rewards that are valuable in PvP, but both of those points need a deep rework, and that can take time. Even the most casual pvper has his wolf marks capped, which is only for glamour.
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    watched my g/f run several frontline maps.. never saw a botter on any team.

    why do people cry bot so much in pvp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    watched my g/f run several frontline maps.. never saw a botter on any team.

    why do people cry bot so much in pvp?
    So many people suck so bad at frontlines it is fair to guess they are bots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperSMB View Post
    So many people suck so bad at frontlines it is fair to guess they are bots.
    that's not a good argument. It just anything that is pvp in any game, people cry bot. I see it in overwatch all the time. 99% of the time, it isn't a bot.
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    Wilan Serulia
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperSMB View Post
    So many people suck so bad at frontlines it is fair to guess they are bots.
    I find it fun how in any other PvP game you cry bot when somebody is doing exceptionally good, like lining up headshots one after another, but here we cry bot when we see bad players.
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