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    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
    You now have three useful DPS cards. Even though Balance is nerfed, it's pretty clear to me that it may just end up in an actual increase. Crit synergized incredibly well with a lot of classes in raids too.
    And how many other classes bring a crit increase? You don't have to bring an AST because you want a crit buff.
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    cerise leclaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    And how many other classes bring a crit increase? You don't have to bring an AST because you want a crit buff.
    How is this even an argument and accepted by some people. Let me just sum it up. Astrologians can give raw extra damage, raw extra crit, raw extra skill and spell speed, can give thirty second damage reductions on tanks for 20% and it has like 200 less overall DPS than other healers. Which other healer can do that? It has stronger medicas, it has stronger shields. How is it not overpowered, really? It's not that Astrologion bringing crit is a bad thing. It's that is brings it on top of all the other utility you seem to forget other classes don't have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
    How is this even an argument and accepted by some people. Let me just sum it up. Astrologians can give raw extra damage, raw extra crit, raw extra skill and spell speed, can give thirty second damage reductions on tanks for 20% and it has like 200 less overall DPS than other healers. Which other healer can do that? It has stronger medicas, it has stronger shields. How is it not overpowered, really? It's not that Astrologion bringing crit is a bad thing. It's that is brings it on top of all the other utility you seem to forget other classes don't have.
    Did Chain Stratagem get deleted from the game? Can AST just use all their cards whenever they want without having to Draw for them and get their Royal Road buff in place? Are all of AST's heals off the GCD now? Does AST have infinite MP? Can AST now regen and shield at the same time?

    AST CANNOT do everything at once, but people act like they can, and it's so, so tiring to hear about.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Did Chain Stratagem get deleted from the game? Can AST just use all their cards whenever they want without having to Draw for them and get their Royal Road buff in place? Are all of AST's heals off the GCD now? Does AST have infinite MP? Can AST now regen and shield at the same time?

    AST CANNOT do everything at once, but people act like they can, and it's so, so tiring to hear about.
    Every thirty seconds you can draw. Chain Strategem is 15 seconds every two minutes. Yours lasts 30 (or 20 full seconds and even that you can enhance. The uptime is much greater. You have issues with mana? Get better mana magement then. You after all also have MP utility. If you can't see how OP Astrologian is, then I don't know what to tell you. Can you shield and heal at the same time he asks. Can you shit out 14k Physick IIs as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starflake View Post
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    The uptime is much greater but the effect is not the same.
    Chain strategem has a much better DPS check value than spear.
    Spear (or cards in general) might bring more dps overall throughout the fight, that is for sure, but it still an unreliable source of dps since it's RNG.



    At least Chain Strategem can be hold to bring significant DPS boost when you need unlike the AST. If you have your spear/balance aoe ready and want to keep it for that dps check in 2min, that mean you can't buff at all for two mins. If you use it, you know there's a non trivial chance that you won't get an aoe dps boost card for the dps check.

    Also, you forsee many things, we can draw every 30sec, but it's random, you might as well draw 10 ewer bole and spire in a row. And it does happen, I've done several susano with not a single balance or Arrow. (aoe ewer power)
    You point at the mana regen utility but again, if you use ewer, you can't RR your next potential dps card.

    AST needed a nerf on one thing, and that thing was balance.
    SCH needed an overall buff and they got it. We can argue that Aldo still cost too much mana but the gap between the two job is much narrower now.

    And we got a useless rework on speed of light... omg what a crap skill.
    So what, now we need to waste essential dignity to reduce that crap skill CD?

    p.s I was actually fearing a nerf on grounded star but I'm happy they didn't touch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    And how many other classes bring a crit increase? You don't have to bring an AST because you want a crit buff.
    I do now I find it pretty awesome tbh
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