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    Dark Knight is well rounded or even too much ?

    all is in the title, i am only concerned with 4vs4, i don't care a lot about balance in FL.
    I just feel unmend is a little too much.
    He can eventualy stun, silence, decast a healer one more time with unmend, and eventualy make healer to be too far for heal a melee for exemple.
    I think tank have to get some carry power offcourse.
    But i still feel Dark knight have a little too much power and war need something, at least a stun.
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    Koltik's Avatar
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    Koltik Morrel
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 66
    WAR is definitely in a bad spot right now. Completely pales compared to DRK/PLD.

    DRK does seem a little over the top, mostly because of unmend. Fix unmend so that it doesn't drag you and cause 2 seconds of full interrupts and it will be fine. Maybe give it a 15s CD.
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    Atreus's Avatar
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    Atreus Auditore
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I think the spammability of the Blackest Night for a 3,000 HP shield is a little nuts, but then again I think Cover is a bit crazy too. I might consider slight increase to the recast of both.

    I'm also really not sure where they were going with DRK's weapon skill potency either. On top of the incredible utility, it also keeps pace with (if not exceeds) WAR's damage.

    Unmend is frustrating, but it does cost a quarter of a DRK's MP. Like Koltik said, a higher recast might do it good.
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    AriaFairchild's Avatar
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    Aria Fairchild
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    The nutty aspect of Unmend is that there is no immunity to it. In FL you can be chain dragged to death.
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    Ekhi Ysengrim
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I know you said you said you don't care about FL, but I want to point out healers are terrified of DRK. Whenever a healer sees me they immediately hightail it out of there. And the ones that don't get yanked and promptly die. The end result is the same either way, the healer is separated from the team. And that cost is nothing because of Souleater. I have fun with it, but DRK is a little much against an uncoordinated team.
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    BloodRubyXII's Avatar
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    Owa Owa
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 100
    This is a really weird topic to read when they were theoretically pretty bad in S4 solo q, but unmend is pretty annoying. They can basically chain cc a healer until someone dies.
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    Character
    Malora Lyra
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 90
    I feel it's a little much. I mean I've still taken them on and won as my bard but as my Astro they are annoying even as a bard they are annoying but Astro they are just hell. A drk gets ahold of me on Astro I'm dead like I'm not getting away. It's actually the only job I hate taking on.
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    Nova Leon
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MaloraYuki View Post
    I feel it's a little much. I mean I've still taken them on and won as my bard but as my Astro they are annoying even as a bard they are annoying but Astro they are just hell. A drk gets ahold of me on Astro I'm dead like I'm not getting away. It's actually the only job I hate taking on.
    That is impressive. I've never seen a Bard win that fight. They would just use unmend and lowblow in unison then stand on top of you the whole time
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    Lala Cristo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 50
    I really wish the other tanks had that pull as well. It's really strong and a death sentence to many.
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    Mirchea Luslec
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Pomo View Post
    I really wish the other tanks had that pull as well. It's really strong and a death sentence to many.
    WAR has it, Holmgang, it pulls, only work on a different way.

    DRK strength is its incredible CC toolkit and its shield. Also to not underestimate SoulSurvivor + ReducedHealsRecieved it is quite deadly, as long as drk has MP it is a serious threat to not underestimate even on a new player in pvp.
    Also the limited choices the system grant us kinda forces us to choose how to deal woth certain roles, for example if you make a CC counter build with traits and addActions, you will have less opportunities tp deal with burst damage/cleaves.
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