With Warrior being so squishy..

[Araxes]

Would it be a good idea to meld Det? It increases your gained healing and dps output and it also got buffed with SB... OR should i stay with crit and direct hit? Im really not sure... i do Main and offtanking so the melds should fit both.

[BluexBird]

Warrior isn't squishy. Our tank stance doesn't reduce damage the way Shield Oath and Grit does, but we have more HP than they do, and when healers heal us, they heal us for more. In the end, it's balanced out. You don't need to worry about becoming "more tanky" via materia.

If you're worried about how squishy you might be, don't tank in Deliverance all the time, use your cooldowns properly, and learn when to best apply Inner Beast.

Now if you want to meld Determination because of damage, I'm not really sure yet. I'm currently running full crit and it's kinda disappointing how low my crit rate is. But maybe I just feel that way because we don't have Internal Release anymore. Still don't know if it's worth going Direct Hit though. I don't think it's worth trying until Savage comes out tomorrow, since there might be changes.

[Galgarion]

Sorry. Squishy? Whaaaaaat? Your beast gauge isn't just for stacking fell cleaves, man. Are you managing cooldowns with inner beast? Are you respecting the fact that you aren't 70 item levels above current content? If you seriously feel squishy, then you need to make adjustments.

[bounddreamer]

A "squishy" warrior isn't doing it right.

[Shinkyo]

Would it be a good idea to meld Det? It increases your gained healing and dps output and it also got buffed with SB... OR should i stay with crit and direct hit? Im really not sure... i do Main and offtanking so the melds should fit both.

Tenacity is much better that Det if you want passive mitigation.
But WAR isn't squishy at all... we have the best mitigation kit out of the 3 tanks (in tank stance due to access to IB and EQ), or at least the one that best suits the content.
WAR feels squishy because your HP fluctuates more than the tanks in tank stance.
Outside tank stance, PLD would be better because they still had access to their full kit.
But in 4.05, we'll have again the ability to quickly go into defiance, pop IB and switch back to deliverance.

[Araxes]

Oh well i see opinions differ here. While Tanking as a Paladin it feels like im getting a lot less damage (no not only because of shield oath) and Healers can do way more dps. As a Warrior. I eat heavy hits even with Defensive CD's and since Tanks have shared gear, this doesnt seem to be the Problem.....

Also Tenacy is useless until we can stack it up into the thousands and thousands since how extremely low it scales. There is a Reason that most Tanks still go Crit or direct hit. There is also a Reason that People lock PLD and DRK in the Pf Tool so you cant join as a WAR. But i guess everyone knows better than everyone. (<--- Yes this is intended)

[Galgarion]

Pffff, that's because pallies hide (cower) behind their shields. They block magic and physical attacks, so their incoming damage is predictable and smooth. Warriors mitigate through higher health pools, so it seems to spike more because they ARE eating more unmitigated damage, but we spring back like it's nothing thanks to our healing bonuses. Our flesh is the thickest, yum-yum.

Sounds to me like you're just experiencing dissonance between the two playstyles. The solution is just to pick one job over the other.

[Quri]

Oh well i see opinions differ here. While Tanking as a Paladin it feels like im getting a lot less damage (no not only because of shield oath) and Healers can do way more dps. As a Warrior. I eat heavy hits even with Defensive CD's and since Tanks have shared gear, this doesnt seem to be the Problem.....

Also Tenacy is useless until we can stack it up into the thousands and thousands since how extremely low it scales. There is a Reason that most Tanks still go Crit or direct hit. There is also a Reason that People lock PLD and DRK in the Pf Tool so you cant join as a WAR. But i guess everyone knows better than everyone. (<--- Yes this is intended)

180-220 tenacity= 1% damage increase and mitigation along with healing effect. 2000 tenacity is 10% damage increase and mitigation along with healing effectiveness.

[Claire_Pendragon]

DET doesnt make healers heal you more.
Same with TEN. (Its VERY poorly phrased like most of the vulnerability oGCDs)

TEN will raise the amount of healing YOU do to others, or yourself.
(A PLDs clemency, a WARs inner beast/storms path, a DRKs Soul Eater/Abyssal Drain)
(The only difference is DET wont raise WAR self healing, or Soul Eater healing, as they arent spells. Abyssal drain is a spell, so i think it works there, but it will raise their dmg, which adds to your heal.)

TEN will also lower the amount of dmg u take by a small %.

[Dizzy_Derp]

Sorry. Squishy? Whaaaaaat? Your beast gauge isn't just for stacking fell cleaves, man. Are you managing cooldowns with inner beast? Are you respecting the fact that you aren't 70 item levels above current content? If you seriously feel squishy, then you need to make adjustments.

Wrong. And right all at the same time.
By is really for you internal release fell cleave decimate, upheaval and onslaught. We have more ear cds than the other two you just need to learn how to use them properly. As for ib, do your best to avoid using it. Its not bad if you need the mitigation but it's mostly for timed when you fuck up and need extra, don't ever put it into hour rotation.