DRK Consolidated Feedback Thread

[WhyAmIHere]

People actually want rdm?

I could more easily argue for RDM to be the last DPS slot than DRK to take the spot of the other tank.

[garret_hawke]

Seriously was it to hard to give 1 hour to 1 programmer instead of like 5 seconds? It almost feel like a waste of time to open the drk code file at this point.

[Nedkel]

Seriously was it to hard to give 1 hour to 1 programmer instead of like 5 seconds? It almost feel like a waste of time to open the drk code file at this point.

Well maybe they take the lore so serious, they want a DRK to be the path of sorrow and pain?
Who knows.

[SoulSkyheart]

So...

Whats the JP side of the forum's have to say with regards to the WAR/DRK changes?

Reading through the DRK ones, it’s appears they’re meme’ing about Yoshi-P’s “usability changes” and a side of slat, quantity of salt will continue to rise as you keep reading on. Mention of Dark Passenger and Sole Survivor that’s been needing changes.

I do like that we’ve got something common between the JP and English forums. The meme of “usability”

[Nivarea]

I wasn't expecting anything big, I'm not surprised with what we got. I can even say I'm happy with TBN QoL buff, it's something we wanted for ages, it only took six month to get it. =D I'm not expecting anything big for DRKuntil 5.0, so every baby buff like the one to Delirium is counted as a bonus in my eyes. =B I'm ready to embrace the meme DRK became.

(in the other hand, I'm genuinly curious to try the new Warrior)

[Ortheri]

SE is patronizing DRKs and I am truly insulted.

I Main DRK, but after this... joke, but I have to look at SE devs in a new light.

When I honestly think about how I feel about DRK, I don't think they need much. After all, I don't need to be top DPSing Tank. I mean someone has to be lowman on the Totem-Pole, and as long as having a DRK Tank will not overtly hurt completing content is DPS really all that important? but a little closer then the 8-10% we see now would be nice.
And a little better self sustain would be nice...but again it's not a big deal.
It would nice to not have worst Oh-$%!# skill but again..Not a deal breaker.

(A Lot of the following will be what I thought was possible and reasonable to expect, not a wishlist)

[Ortheri]

DRK Needs is a useless OGCD fixed. And, Dark Passenger sets unchanged. As it sets now you have blow half your Mp Pool for a jaw dropping 240 potency cone attack plus a counter intuitive blind.

Soul Survivor is useless unless there are adds to kill. I confess That I thought A change here was possible.

Carve and Spit. Anyone ever look at the mp gained by a non Dark Arts C&S? It's 1200mp. That's not enough MP to activate Grit. Wouldn't it be reasonable for it to give you back enough mp to use DA or turn on Grit? I know. Why would you ever not DA C&S but still, non-Dark Arts C&S is worthless even on aoe pulls.

How about a Raid wide utility? PLD has a few, WAR has a nice one...DRK has TBK. Please compare. I was sure, just sure, what we would see here was Dark Mind being turned into a Party wide skill.

These are the simple things I thought DRK needed to be at least reasonably close to the other tanks. (again not a wishlist)

[Ortheri]

I thought one change to help with DPS may be Delirium recast timer...well I called one, not that it helps anywhere nearly enough to make up the deficit.

Mitigation wise I think DRK is okay, it's arguably the worst Tank but again, can it complete the content? if so that puts mitigation in the good enough category.

But looking at the patch notes I felt sick not because they didn't address or fix...anything really, it was that they have read the feedback, heard the out cry and disregarded it. And, in a insulting attempt to placate Dark Knight players they give a tiny DPS increase and laughable quality of life change.

I don't know what to do about this. I don't know where to turn...and I hate to say it but if 4.2 brought no change at all I'd have felt better. Now...I think I may vote with my wallet.

[Ash_]

I think if we want to see some genuinely positive changes, then we as a community will need to focus our feedback and agree on a single list of changes we'd like to see. At the moment there's too much noise with everyone posting their wish lists.

With that said I think most of our issues stem from the introduction of role actions. Giving reprisal/low blow back to DRK exclusively would bring back some identity to the class as a starting point.

[Veritas-Ancora]

I appreciate this Ash, but I don't think identity is really what's necessary at this point. If DRK is the middle-job between WAR and PLD, I'm fine with that.

I don't necessarily agree that we need a "single list of changes" -- I think the real intent here is that there's a tons of different ways to approach this problem and trying even one of them would be better for us than what's been introduced in the preliminary notes.