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  1. #711
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    Ryutamashiisan's Avatar
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    Lilith Ravenswing
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    It seems pretty clear that SE doesn't know what to do with DRK and/or doesn't care at all. Stormblood has been out for months and Dark Passenger is still so useless most people don't have it on their bars. SE may touch it again in 5.0, and then thoroughly screw one of the other tanks.
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    "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."- Albert Einstein

  2. #712
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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Mute Shellback
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    Not sure if everyone saw this, but did we see the reason for the shake it off buff?

    «Warrior»
    Warrior’s party utility will be increased by changing the effect of Shake It Off and adjusting its party defending capabilities to be more in balance with that of paladin and dark knight.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/350624

    I'm guessing their response to TBN feedback is that our utility is equivalent to paladin.
    I guess our skill is just as good as PLD's wings... oh wait, it's not even as good as PLD's Cover.
    But we're still equals guys.
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  3. #713
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    Pixiline Paradigm
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    Mr. Happy just (kind of) called for us to get a buff in his vs. video. Kind of half-cocked but I guess its some publicity since devs clearly don't care about anything posted here.
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  4. #714
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    Mr. Happy just (kind of) called for us to get a buff in his vs. video. Kind of half-cocked but I guess its some publicity since devs clearly don't care about anything posted here.
    Ill watch it, but sadly the biggest hurdle facing DRK to getting any buffs is, overall, the amount of people who play, and even "main," tanks. If it's sincere and not a "You wanna know how best to gear DRK? Go to your armoury chest and equip a WAR weapon" remark from Xeno.
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  5. #715
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    Ill watch it, but sadly the biggest hurdle facing DRK to getting any buffs is, overall, the amount of people who play, and even "main," tanks. If it's sincere and not a "You wanna know how best to gear DRK? Go to your armoury chest and equip a WAR weapon" remark from Xeno.
    I was starting to really like and respect Xeno towards the latter half of 3.x. But he's made it clear that as far as his influence within the community, he's not going to stick his neck out for any job other than WAR no matter how bad it is.
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  6. #716
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    Mr. Happy just (kind of) called for us to get a buff in his vs. video. Kind of half-cocked but I guess its some publicity since devs clearly don't care about anything posted here.
    I'm just glad that Happy is voicing that DRK needs fixing. Sure he may not have hit all the problems with it and all the "pros" he listed for it were also strangely called out as cons when he talked about DRK, but at least it was clearly stated that DRK was discernibly the worst of the tanks and by a good amount. Also since a good portion of the playerbase likes to just take what the well known YouTubers say as gospel and parrot it back ad nauseum, seeing this makes.me hope that maybe they'll start parroting this and finally we'll maybe get some acknowledgement.

    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    I was starting to really like and respect Xeno towards the latter half of 3.x. But he's made it clear that as far as his influence within the community, he's not going to stick his neck out for any job other than WAR no matter how bad it is.
    Xeno's a great player, but his bias towards and preference for WAR is, and always has been, extremely obvious.
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 11-03-2017 at 01:27 PM.

  7. #717
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    "So PLDs are basically perfect right now, WARs are basically perfect right now, and DRKs are just lacking a little bit but still super fun to play? Good job, SE! I'm sure they'll get on those DRK changes shortly..."

    Comment from happy's video. This is probably what most of the playerbase is thinking, sadly.
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  8. 11-03-2017 01:50 PM

  9. #718
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    I was starting to really like and respect Xeno towards the latter half of 3.x. But he's made it clear that as far as his influence within the community, he's not going to stick his neck out for any job other than WAR no matter how bad it is.
    Actually he has stated on his stream multiple times DRK needs to get buffed we are all biased towards our favourite class but he definitely does like DRK too he did say the class needs more damage and that the mitigation tools/tbn is horrible and the ways its designed all around is fucking stupid he praised the old 3.0 DRK for its versatility and risk/reward/skill balance.

    TLDR Xeno has definitely shown his dislike for SE's actions regarding DRK often calling them retarded.
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  10. #719
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dio_Tiferet View Post
    Actually he has stated on his stream multiple times DRK needs to get buffed we are all biased towards our favourite class but he definitely does like DRK too he did say the class needs more damage and that the mitigation tools/tbn is horrible and the ways its designed all around is fucking stupid he praised the old 3.0 DRK for its versatility and risk/reward/skill balance.

    TLDR Xeno has definitely shown his dislike for SE's actions regarding DRK often calling them retarded.
    I'm aware that he does this on stream. To be perfectly frank though I wish he would make a youtube video or something.
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  11. #720
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    Its not gonna change a thing the outcry has been big enough to warrant SE addressing it but they refuse to do so a video wont change that. We just gotta make do with what we got and adapt because SE does not seem to prioritize balancing out the classes even when they are starting to get blocked from content.

    As far as Xeno goes i think he has been vocal enough but i also think its not up to him to hit up SE and telling them to get their shit together hes probably been dealing with these balance issues throughout the game long enough to know its futile and we just gotta adapt to whatever the meta demands.
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