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  1. #541
    Player
    Tegernako's Avatar
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    Crusina Luachra
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    I agree, the only way to see changes are to stop playing and just switch to something else. Hence my post, dark is already the least run tank in savage, might as well cut that number in half. And the sooner the better, ultimate tier comes out in two weeks. Maybe they'll start listening.
    I mean, I have little doubt they are working on changes or ideas for changes.

    The problem is they don't SAY ANYTHING. And it's not just NA/EU english ppl either. The japanese forum gets no communication from them either.

    Why can't they just say they are working on more changes and that it will take time? Okay that sucks but at least you're talking to us. This silence is so frustrating.
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    Halo kid

  2. #542
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    Chrono_Rising's Avatar
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    Gulvioir Muruc
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I agree, the silence makes us think that they think the class is perfect when really a significant portion of the player base thinks it’s not. Hell even tell us why they think it’s fine so we can have a discussion would be better than ignoring us outright.
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  3. #543
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    AngelyLowell's Avatar
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    Character
    Angely Moonlight
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Yeah, no adjustments in DRK for 4.1.

    The tanker with less DPS and with less utility.

    Now War can give a 8% HP Shield to entire party.
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  4. #544
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    NellMoshroca's Avatar
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    Nell Moshroca
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Well....Time to gear PLD cause SE won't fix DRK until 5.0 at this rate.
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  5. #545
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    garret_hawke's Avatar
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    Character
    Garret Shadowwalker
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    Welp at least DRK will be god tier in 5.0 if SE follow their precedent in tank balance...
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  6. #546
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    Cabalabob's Avatar
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Currently DRK is the most lacking tank of the 3, having less cooldowns while all the cooldowns it has are weaker than the other tank's counterparts.

    So here's how I'd change DRK:

    Souleater: remove grit requirement from absorb HP.

    Abyssal drain: absorb HP made baseline but only half the absorb of a dark arts abyssal drain.

    Salted earth: drain HP from every tic.

    Shadow wall: additional effect: recover mp equivalent to damage received when effect wears off.

    Sole survivor: rework it into a self target buff that when the DRK takes damage, heals the party for 10% of the DRKs max hp, kind of like a reverse divine veil.

    Dark passenger: remove mp cost, remove base damage, make blind baseline and increase blind duration. So without dark arts it would just be a free AoE blind, with dark arts it would be a powerful AoE attack.

    Dark mind: change to reduce ALL damage taken by 15%, 30% under dark arts. This would make it more in line with sheltron, where sheltron is a consistent 20~% reduction, while dark mind would jump between high/low.

    Living dead: radical change, prevents all hp recovery for 10 seconds, if the DRKs hp is reduced to 1, recover full hp and mp and removes living dead effect.

    With just these minor tweaks DRK would play fairly similar to how it currently does, but it's defensive kit would be far more effective.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 10-07-2017 at 04:30 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

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    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

  7. #547
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    Mekhana's Avatar
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    Let me switch to Limsa
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    Character
    Mekhana Souther
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Unsubbed see you guys in 5.0 maybe
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  8. #548
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    347SPECTRE's Avatar
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    Character
    Khirrika Moshroca
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    *Sees lack of DRK changes in patch notes*
    Hello darkness my old friend...............
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  9. #549
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    Arek's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Arek Qor
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    So yes, Warrior needed adjustments, especially on Shake It Off. Though... DRK needed some adjusments too or it will fall behind the 2 Others. If there is truly no adjustments in this patch, as I think it will. There is absolutely no reason to bring a DRK in the set up, since WAR and PLD does everything better (slightly, but still) than DRK.
    DRK is not unplayable, but in a Raid environnement, you most likely want to put every chance on your side to win.

    What I see mandatory :

    - Dark Wall on a 120 sec CD instead of 180 (to be on par with Reprisal and Sentinel)
    - Adjustment on Dark Passenger (Absolutely not usable, way too much MPs for nothing great)

    What I would like to see :

    - Souleater need to have the HP Drain without Grit. (So we can switch between stance easier even when main tank, without losing too much sustain. Right now, DRK has the biggest penalty for switching. more MPs than PLD, WAR has no penalty)
    - Dark Mind is kinda weak now that PLD can block magic.
    - DRK is squishy and cannot rely always on TBN, so we need a little Defensive CD to be on par with WAR and PLD. (Role Skill are pretty much sealed)
    - Optional but would be very welcome : A Self Big Heal to be on par with Clemence and Equilibrium. To not break the negativity of Living Dead, seal the skill under the debuff Walking Dead.

    I'll EDIT my post if I think of something else. But that will be it for now.
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  10. #550
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    TabrisOmbrelame's Avatar
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    Character
    Relnoria Thelysea
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    I don't event understand why Square Enix don't touch the DRK....

    Now, the DRK won't have any weight in a raid...

    When you see that TBN give 20% HP Shield on your self OR 10% Shield on a Ally... And form what i learned, the warrior get a 8% HP Shield on everyone ? What the hell ?

    For exemple, if the shield of the War is 8% of HIS max HP this is clearly insane, for calculation we suggest the war got 60k hp under his tank buff :

    So 60000 x 0.08 = 4800, 4800 damage absorbed for EVERYONE, 4800 x 8 = 38400hp, This is fucking insane !

    As DRK TBN make a shield of 10% of our max hp on ONE Ally that will probably turn around 5000-5400 Damage absorbed (following the gear of the DRK)
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