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  1. #511
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    Tegernako's Avatar
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    Crusina Luachra
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    I made a mistake people. I posted on Reddit seeking discussion.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...have_happened/

    All those people thinking DRK is perfectly fine lol Where is SyzzleSpark? She'd get a heart attack reading it I think.

    I'm honestly shocked at how many people think DRK is perfectly fine. I mean, they are entitled to their opinion. But IMO, they are dead wrong. I don't see how people do not see how bad DRK is right now.
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    Last edited by Tegernako; 10-04-2017 at 04:36 AM.

    Halo kid

  2. #512
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    TouchandFeel's Avatar
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Tegernako View Post
    I posted on Reddit
    I think I found your problem.

    Seriously, Reddit is like the hospice care of rationale and decency, it's where they go to die.
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 10-04-2017 at 04:41 AM.

  3. #513
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    Yep. Would ditch it in a second if I ever found an alternative. I like forums like this much better. It's just that I can't find one that talks about books, video games, and holds similar values that I do and doesn't allow for toxicity and harassment.

    I like these forums. I highly doubt I'd find great discussion about my main gaming platform (Xbox) here lol
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  4. #514
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    Aana Azel
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tegernako View Post
    I made a mistake people. I posted on Reddit seeking discussion.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...have_happened/

    All those people thinking DRK is perfectly fine lol Where is SyzzleSpark? She'd get a heart attack reading it I think.

    I'm honestly shocked at how many people think DRK is perfectly fine. I mean, they are entitled to their opinion. But IMO, they are dead wrong. I don't see how people do not see how bad DRK is right now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tegernako View Post
    Yep. Would ditch it in a second if I ever found an alternative. I like forums like this much better. It's just that I can't find one that talks about books, video games, and holds similar values that I do and doesn't allow for toxicity and harassment.

    I like these forums. I highly doubt I'd find great discussion about my main gaming platform (Xbox) here lol
    "This other group disagrees with me! I cant understand why anyone would think this other way."
    "I like this forum because I cant find other ones that agree with my values"

    I think you just unwittingly described the reason for your online community predicament.
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  5. #515
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    Tegernako's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
    "This other group disagrees with me! I cant understand why anyone would think this other way."
    "I like this forum because I cant find other ones that agree with my values"

    I think you just unwittingly described the reason for your online community predicament.
    First of all, I never said that I don't understand why people would disagree with me. I understand perfectly why they disagree with me, just because I don't add a disclaimer to my post saying "even though I didn't write an entire essay explaining everything" doesn't mean I don't understand where other people are coming from. Nor did I say that they were wrong to have that opinion. It's hard to properly convey all nuance online, you should know that by now.

    I said I was shocked to see that so many people thought the class was fine. There's nothing wrong with me saying that. Because again, I never said they were wrong to hold that opinion and I was joking around anyways. I also added "lol" to demonstrate that I wasn't being serious. I mean, I don't know how else to showcase that. Do you need big bold letters and neon signs and big essays so people like you don't end up with the wrong idea?

    I also never said that I liked these forums because they agree with me. (Many, many people do not agree with me) I like these forums because it's a traditional forum with posts and signatures and such over reddit which doesn't have that. I also said I was looking for a place that didn't allow harassment and talked about things that interest me (Like Xbox, video games, and books). When I mentioned values, I meant my personal beliefs like "nazis are bad". Reddit has way to many people who think nazis are good and many other places are filled with sexist or discriminatory people. I want a place that's inclusive. It had nothing to do with everyone agreeing with me on issues in this game and everything to do with finding a place that matches all of the criteria and more that I listed. It's not easy.

    So you were wrong on every point. It's a waste of my time to have to clear up simple concepts for you and it derails the thread. This is the last I will talk about this, this is about DRK not your self vendetta's and I'm sorry I started this line of conversation in the first place.
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    Last edited by Tegernako; 10-04-2017 at 08:34 AM.

  6. #516
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    garret_hawke's Avatar
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    Garret Shadowwalker
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    I think SE don't want to do to much ajustement to drk because the way all skills are interconnected meaning change 1 force to change another and so on so they are still balance among themselves so SE change nothing so the cards castle that is drk dont fall apart.
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  7. #517
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by garret_hawke View Post
    I think SE don't want to do to much ajustement to drk because the way all skills are interconnected meaning change 1 force to change another and so on so they are still balance among themselves so SE change nothing so the cards castle that is drk dont fall apart.
    it's not thaaat diificult.

    lower mana cost of Dark Passenger, shorten the cd of Shadow Wall, let Dark Mind reduce physiscal damage too (the Dark Arts effects 30% mitigation is still magic only or simply just removed) and / or give Blood Price a 10% mitigation.

    i think that's the tl;dr of this thread's reasonable ideas.

    the biggest problem of DRK is his lack of personal mitigation. dps is low, but okay, making Dark Passenger usefull again should solve this. and TBN is also an okay utility skill, just single target, but you can basically use it every 15 seconds if you wish.
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  8. #518
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    Chrono_Rising's Avatar
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I would also add removing grit requirement on soul eater self sustain and working on sole survivor.
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  9. #519
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    SalamanderIX's Avatar
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    Lucida Sans
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    Famfrit
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    For a job with so many finishers, resources to track, a 15-23 second no tank stance hyper-mode, a 2 second power up in Dark Arts; I feel like they intended this job to be the damage dealer of tanks.
    So why can I do the same damage as Paladin with less stress and more utility? At the moment I don't want to play Dark Knight at all outside dungeons (where they do shine, somewhat).
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  10. #520
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    Mekhana's Avatar
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    Mekhana Souther
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Living Dead is a huge source of salt from me.

    1= You pop it too early and you die right after it wears off
    2= You pop it and the game doesn't register it and you die anyways
    3= You pop it and the healer can't get you up fast enough
    4= The CD is too long and isn't intuitive enough.

    Just awful design really. It wasn't as bad as in 3.x when we had great self-healing but its shortcomings are really sticking out right now.
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