DRK Consolidated Feedback Thread

[NymeriaVelaris]

If you don't believe me, just take a gander at flogs; in optimized runs with a DRK in the party, said DRKs are typically using TBN less than 10 times in as many minutes. I've seen some 9-10 minute encounters with only 5-6 casts of TBN. Basically if you're looking to optimize you actually wanna use it as little as possible - this is something that I think is silly and ought to be fixed. Its part of our core cooldown suite, it isn't some bonus extra safety net for prog or screw-ups like IB or Clemency. Saying you gain mitigation from it without a DPS loss is misinformation.

As it was already said, its a minimal dps loss/gain (low single digit potency differences), not worth talking about. Its the closest thing the devs managed to create. I think its unnecessary to make a fuss about it at this point.
There is no reason not to use TBN successfully as much as possible even while doing speedruns. In the contrary, it also helps healers dps.

The reason why people dont use TBN on cooldown/more often is that it can be risky on non-telegraphed attacks or autos. Also TBN is only 10% on your tank partner, which is nice but basically never needed if they have decent gear and planned out their own cooldowns, which is the case in optimized runs. Casting another DA for the same DPS gain is just easier.

There actually isn't a problem with having TBN being part of dps optimisation. Third Eye/Seigan on SAM can be used to give you minor resource gains if you use it correctly by predicting incoming damage, and that's on a dps job.

There is, as i have pointed out. Your comparison to Third Eye isnt quite fitting. Third Eye just needs the player to be hit by any damage to proc. It will work on any level on any content and since you are never tanking as SAM its very predictable to use, cause you dont deal with autos and you just need one hit. It also doesnt cost any recources. TBN on the other hand needs to break completely in 5 seconds to proc and has costs.

[SyzzleSpark]

I think its unnecessary to make a fuss about it at this point.

TBN is under scrutiny (at least currently, there's 40 pages behind us of discussion on other aspects of DRK as well) because its essentially a second DA, a whole other resource mechanic in and of itself, as well as a mitigation tool. I don't think its unreasonable to look at it more closely when trying to figure out ways to fix DRK's problems (meh DPS ceiling, lopsided mitigation, tons of cost/return resource mechanics that don't really reward you that much for mastering them, etc.)

Feel free to offer some alternative suggestions.