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    Chrono_Rising's Avatar
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    This isn't a warrior feedback thread.

    I'm not exactly happy with how they have taken so much from dark knight: parry procs, parry resets, and a whole host of oGCD's. It didn't take a huge amount of skill to push these buttons on cooldown, but it gave us some flavor if you will. I would love to see some job changes that actually restored some of this flavor by giving an interaction between our skills.

    Bloodspiller: lowers cost of dark arts by 20% for 5 seconds

    Dark Arts: lowers the timer on delirium by 3 seconds per use.
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    Last edited by Chrono_Rising; 08-15-2017 at 09:10 PM.

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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    This isn't a warrior feedback thread.
    That's warriors for you, they just can't help themselves .
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    Rys Sol
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    Omega
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    This isn't a warrior feedback thread.
    Yeah, DRKs should really focus on their own job instead of complaining so much about WAR and WAR players.
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    Pixiline Paradigm
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    Yeah, DRKs should really focus on their own job instead of complaining so much about WAR and WAR players.
    The irony in this post is not wasted I hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    The irony in this post is not wasted I hope.
    I try to avoid posting in DRK threads because I'm not interested in the job and don't plan on leveling it any time soon. But I'm not going to ignore posts like "All you see is them complaining about how hard it is to do damage on their job". You're basically just saying "WAR is fine, it does the most dps and has the best mitigation but WAR players are lazy", and you're dismissing the complaints of a lot of people. Tank balance isn't going to improve when people who don't play a job start parroting things like that. Keep your criticism focused on DRK, not on the other jobs you're less invested in (or their players).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    I try to avoid posting in DRK threads because I'm not interested in the job and don't plan on leveling it any time soon. But I'm not going to ignore posts like "All you see is them complaining about how hard it is to do damage on their job". You're basically just saying "WAR is fine, it does the most dps and has the best mitigation but WAR players are lazy", and you're dismissing the complaints of a lot of people. Tank balance isn't going to improve when people who don't play a job start parroting things like that. Keep your criticism focused on DRK, not on the other jobs you're less invested in (or their players).
    There is a difference in saying these jobs have x, y, and z compared to dark knight which does not have an analog. There is a difference in comparing the utility of two classes and asking why the class with less utility does less dps and has less tools for mitigation.

    I am not one of the people claiming dark is particularly challenging nor do I claim paladin or warrior is easy, and I don't see a ton of posts here doing that either. However, we don't tank in a vacuum and we do need to compare our kit to the competition.

    Perhaps you have an issue in a warrior or paladin balance thread, and perhaps that is with particular people. I think the proper place to address that is in that thread rather than attacking the dark knight community as a whole here and generalizing us as you claim to have been generalized, this is detracting from the conversation as a whole.
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    Last edited by Chrono_Rising; 08-15-2017 at 11:19 PM.

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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    This isn't a warrior feedback thread.

    I'm not exactly happy with how they have taken so much from dark knight: parry procs, parry resets, and a whole host of oGCD's. It didn't take a huge amount of skill to push these buttons on cooldown, but it gave us some flavor if you will. I would love to see some job changes that actually restored some of this flavor by giving an interaction between our skills.

    Bloodspiller: lowers cost of dark arts by 20% for 5 seconds

    Dark Arts: lowers the timer on delirium by 3 seconds per use.
    I wouldn't have minded us stealing Bloodbath since it thematically fits a DRK much more, but it is what it is.
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    I would actually love that as well. I wish sole survivor would provide this instead of only restoring hp and mana on a death. Or taking the hp absorb on soul eater out of grit as well. This way even if our mitigation is lower we are at least steadily contributing to our healing.
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    Last edited by Chrono_Rising; 08-16-2017 at 02:23 AM.