DRK Consolidated Feedback Thread

[Chrono_Rising]

Inner beast comes with a dps cost, this doesn't make it a "bad skill", it makes it a low priority mitigation. Same deal with Clemency, I would never want to heal myself, but it is there in a pinch, and if my other option is death then I'm going to cast it.

Most (if not all) of the savage fights you can alternate mitigation for tank busters on both paladin and warrior and have something for the inbetween as well, which will cover you for at least 10 to 20 seconds, without touching low priority self heals or mitigation (clemency and IB). I think the core of the issue that people have is that TBN is basically the answer to everything and has a questionable effect on our personal dps/healer dps.

Dark knight doesn't have an emergency self sustain: TBN so healers have 5 seconds to heal

Dark knight doesn't have much mitigation between tank busters: TBN an autoattack once every 15 seconds

Dark knight doesn't have enough mitigation to survive with one cooldown: TBN for more mitigation

Have a DPS window coming up and I want to use bloodspiller: TBN for more blood depending on where you are in your gcd

A healer somewhere sneezed: Use TBN just in case

Does using this skill this often do anything for the class other than emphasize mana managment and fight knowledge? The answer is maybe it nets you 1 to 3 potency, or maybe it doesn't break and you lost 140 potency.

Does it give healers a window to dps? At 5 seconds you are going to need to announce that you used it, so maybe it will net your healer an extra cast if you can type that fast or use voice.

Does it slow incoming damage so that regens can keep up with some of the incoming damage? No, it makes your incoming damage feel more spiked because you're essentially nullifying damage all at once instead of slowing damage over 20 seconds for about the same effect.

Does TBN work as mitigation on its own on tank busters? Usually it needs to be paired with something (perhaps just tank stance if things didn't go to plan) costing you 4200 mana (almost two dark arts definately a dps loss even with blood regen); does super well for low hitting tankbusters. PLD: Tank stance + shelltron mitigates more on most tank busters in savage, is usually up and is relatively easy to pull off while recovering some resources (dps loss). WAR: Tank stance + IB mitgates less due to the way tank stance works but has higher ehp, and as an added bonus will restore some hp for the switch into tank stance, again this probably points to things going awry and is comparable to the dps loss for the other two (because you didn't lose a GCD changing stances but you are forced into tank stance for longer).

TBN is up more frequently, this is 100% true, but the frequency of use feels more like a mechanic than mitigation which is not particularly rewarding for timing well and is punishing if you time it poorly. The fact that it needs such a short cooldown really points to the weakness in the kit prior to 70. Even with pressing this button as often as you can while breaking it, dark knight still feels undertuned in comparison to the other two tanks in terms of mitigations and dps.

However, I do feel this conversation has gone down a semi random path of needing to measure up to low priority mitigation and low priority selfsustain of the other tanks, and I feel this is to the detriment of the conversation as a whole leading people to start new conversations.

tl;dr
TBN is basically a versitile catch all skill requiring timing and fight knowledge. Used and communicated well it can be helpful for healer dps and personal/individual mitigation, but is a low reward (one to 3 potency per use in practice I think) with high risk to personal dps (risking 140 potency per use). Overall dark knight feels slightly undertuned for the amount of utility and dps it brings, but people seem to be really caught up on one powerful skill meant to fill in every gap dark knight has in its mitigation toolbox.