DRK Consolidated Feedback Thread

[VenKitsune]

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i dont think you get when im saying... im saying that if you're taking lots of damage all of a sudden and you're out of cooldowns your only option is TBN which isn't always there due to it costing MP. meanwhile a PLD or WAR can willingly lower their dps in favour of the ability to actually survive instead of dying and thus loosing even more dps.
Tanking isn't ALL about doing damage you know? the examples i listed are examples of being able to sacrifce your dps to actually live through mechanics, DRK has no such mechanic like that that doesn't cost MP and even then TBN is still a 15 second cooldown and only a 20% shield which is at most 2 auto attacks from a boss, IB on the other hand is on the GCD, only has about 150 less pot than Fell cleave AND is a rampart for close to 10 seconds (not to mention the self heal) which is far more effective for mitigating fluff damage than TBN is. meanwhile PLD has sheltron every 15 seconds AT NO COST to their MP and clemency if they need it. my point is that DRK has no such equivalent tool

[Accelerating]

Because those tools are mostly useless since you shouldn't be taking damage 'all of a sudden'. Also Inner Beast not only loses you 150 potency, it also forces you to switch into Defiance for 10 seconds, which results in more dps loss.
The main reason why TBN is such a great skill is because it barely has any cost can not only be used on every tank buster but also auto attacks if time correctly.

[SyzzleSpark]

Because those tools are mostly useless since you shouldn't be taking damage 'all of a sudden'. Also Inner Beast not only loses you 150 potency, it also forces you to switch into Defiance for 10 seconds, which results in more dps loss.
The main reason why TBN is such a great skill is because it barely has any cost can not only be used on every tank buster but also auto attacks if time correctly.

Here's the thing. IB and Clemency are "extras". TBN is not. TBN is part of our 3 core cooldowns that every tank has (Sheltron/Bulwark/Sentinel, Vengeance/Thrill/Raw) not counting invulns and cross role stuff. Dark Knight doesn't have any "extras". This is what people aren't happy about.

What's more, for those core cooldown suites, there is no real resource management required. DRK is the only tank that has only 2 "free" cooldowns and no cooldowns that last longer than 10 seconds.

[Accelerating]

Here's the thing. IB and Clemency are "extras". TBN is not. TBN is part of our 3 core cooldowns that every tank has (Sheltron/Bulwark/Sentinel, Vengeance/Thrill/Raw) not counting invulns and cross role stuff. Dark Knight doesn't have any "extras". This is what people aren't happy about.

??? Those "extras" are useless, IB at least. I agree that DRK defense is somewhat lacking, but I'd rather see a buff to Shadow Wall instead of another useless CD.

[SyzzleSpark]

??? Those "extras" are useless, IB at least. I agree that DRK defense is somewhat lacking, but I'd rather see a buff to Shadow Wall instead of another useless CD.

For real?

IB is one of the most powerful abilities in the game, and the healing throughput on Clemency is insane.

"Good for prog, bad for farm/parse runs" ≠ "Useless".

The point is, they are safety nets that PLD/WAR have and DRK does not. If we aren't going to have access to those safety nets (which are extremely useful during prog and when learning a fight, or even just covering for mistakes because, ya know, those do happen even in farm/parse groups), then yes, our existing cooldown suite needs significant buffs/re-tuning.