DRK Consolidated Feedback Thread

[SyzzleSpark]

I don't get this. If nobody cared then why so much use in savage? why not use WAR over DRK in savage?

Wouldn't the world's best min-maxers know best if it mattered or not?

A lot of people DO use WAR over DRK in savage. Most world first groups took DRK for insurance, and because its DPS rotation was easier and less punishing (at the time, now WAR is back to being fuck-all easy again if you know the fight even just a little bit). But nowadays, TBN isn't worth much. There's nothing it can mitigate that the MT isn't perfectly capable of mitigating with their own CDs, and 5K isn't enough to wholly replace a CD in their rotation. So no, TBN is not really utility:

The main problem that I have with the word "utility" in these discussions is that it's often used to describe things that often don't confer a benefit. I can shield a WAR with TBN on a tankbuster for 25% of my MP and a minor dps loss, but there's no point in doing so if they're more than capable of surviving on their own by having access to largest free mitigation suite in the game. It's fun, yes. If it's balanced as a dps gain (as it was in 4.01 for a whopping 4 potency per use), then it's just a personal dps gain, not utility.

[Freyyy]

lots of magic tankbusters in savage > DRK has a powerfull magic cooldown wich he can use once a minute, wich makes him the best maintank in savage.

That's just not true anymore. Dark Mind isn't as big as it used to be in 3.X, even on heavily-magical fights. Now PLD has better magic mitigation than DRK, and WAR has no issue with tank busters, magic damage or not. They can use Holmgang every 3min, and for the rest they have Vengeance and ToB on 2min CD only, Equilibrium on 60sec, and if needed, they can IB at almost any time since there is no penalty on switching stances anymore, while having access to the same cross-role actions as the other tanks (Rampart, Conv, Awareness for O3S, Reprisal). The only reason why DRK was taken over WAR for world prog is just what Syzzle said above :

A lot of people DO use WAR over DRK in savage. Most world first groups took DRK for insurance, and because its DPS rotation was easier and less punishing (at the time, now WAR is back to being fuck-all easy again if you know the fight even just a little bit).

That's all.